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Post by darthorc on Dec 8, 2014 19:13:45 GMT
Recently Vilja has been moving about at a very high speed from time to time. This started before I downloaded ver 4.0 and has cropped up since then as well. It first started when she asked to lead the Dragonborn somewhere. She dashed away so fast the Dragonborn could not keep up with her sprinting, even with 4 items of fortify movement speed and a walking stick equipped and deployed (I'm playing using SkyRe). This also happens indoors in mansions and the Archmage's quarters, both when she is following and when she is relaxing. Any ideas?
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Post by CollinMacleod on Dec 8, 2014 20:26:56 GMT
Hmmm.. So fast that you can't catch her, no that's unusual. She will on occasion sprint for just tick to get where she needs to be, if she is following and for example crafting for a moment and you move off. But it's unusual. Are you using the alternate following style? If you are, it's a navmesh issue. You want it in technical terms? Hows this, a fox that moves fast can't find an easy path, so he jumps to the next location, then Vilja runs to catch up with it. If you happen to be using the alternate following style her heading target is out in front of you and will sometimes not have a valid path so it goes to the closest location in the target area, it is usually the worst crossing water, bridges and otherwise, It should perform better in 4.0. But if it is persistent, keep us informed. She shouldn't be capable of fully outrunning you.
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Post by dubhorizon on Dec 8, 2014 21:52:06 GMT
Maybe Load order related? I had the same problem with Hadvaar, after saving him from the cave (live another life), he was broken and instead of talking to the blacksmith and continue the quest he sprinted increadibly fast past the village, then I caught up with him when he got stuck by a rock, talked to him and he started sprinting the other direction, hit a tree and rinse repeat. Turns out I had Live Another Live and Realshelter load order messed up. After loading from the cave and forward, it was never repeated.
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Post by darthorc on Dec 9, 2014 17:46:49 GMT
I have been playing Skyrim with Vilja for 100's of hours with the same mods without having this happen like this. I do update them every few weeks, though. I install mods using Steam or Nexus Mod Manager and follow up with LOOT. I run LOOT after updating, too.
I am using the standard following style. This behavior has started cropping up during combat, too, sometimes in open terrain. One can see her during the entire time, she isn't warping. She just moves very, very fast.
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Post by CollinMacleod on Dec 9, 2014 20:11:15 GMT
I placed the question in the private forum, I can't think of a logical reason why this would happen.
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Post by dubhorizon on Dec 9, 2014 20:42:26 GMT
darthorc, can you please post your load order with spoiler tags? I would like to take a look at it.
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Post by Emma on Dec 9, 2014 20:57:33 GMT
Yes, I would like that, too... I remember this popped up once before and was caused by a mod (some kind of overhaul... Requiem?? possibly??), and I think that Amgepo and/or the author made some kind of fix for it but I can't remember what it was about.
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Post by Wolf on Dec 9, 2014 22:29:12 GMT
If Vilja is following the HeadingTarget she gets a speed boost from time to time to keep up with the player or even run ahead of him. This speed boost is calculated based on the speed of the player. Now that the player has items which increase his speed (and even a walking stick Vilja multiplies her speed and must go off like a rocket sometimes. By the way there is a SkyRe compatibility patch now. But I doubt that it will adress this fact. But I guess if the player boosts his speed by using items then Vilja will be the only companion who will rather keep pace with the player in the default following mode behind the player. But only due to the fact that she is warping.
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Post by darthorc on Dec 10, 2014 18:03:08 GMT
darthorc, can you please post your load order with spoiler tags? I would like to take a look at it. I am not sure how to do this - especially the part about spoiler tags (I know what that means for images I post on Steam, but not for load order). I can see the load order on NMM and LOOT and know they can be moved around, but haven't ever tried doing it. The names of the items displayed sometimes are strange, too (not the same as the mods). As for her speed boost being due to the Dragonborn's speed boosting apparel, I ave been using SkyRe for a while now with 3 different Dragonborns, all using speed boosting items, and this never happened with the first two.
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Post by dubhorizon on Dec 10, 2014 18:47:16 GMT
spoiler tags : [ s p o i l e r ] add text here [ / s p o i l e r ] Without the spaces between the letters. Example. yo I'm a happy example
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Post by darthorc on Dec 10, 2014 21:41:47 GMT
O.K. but just what constitutes a spoiler in one's load order? Also, what is the easiest way to copy/paste the load order? (NMM doesn't seem to allow it, and neither does LOOT).
To misquote a line from the movie Galaxy Quest - explain it as you would to a child.
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Post by Emma on Dec 10, 2014 22:06:12 GMT
Darthorc, are you using Requiem?
We *think* it was Requiem that sometimes had this effect on Vilja, but I thought that was cured.
When Vilja is rushing ahead, open the console and type GetAV SpeedMult.
If the SpeedMult is over 100, revert it to 100 with SetAV SpeedMult 100.
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Post by darthorc on Dec 11, 2014 5:00:39 GMT
No, I am not using Requiem. She has stopped flitting about for now, but it comes and goes. Her speedmult is currently 100. Next time it happens, I'll try your fix. (I'll give you a full report.) Thanks
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Post by Dova on Dec 12, 2014 22:29:52 GMT
darthorc, if it's convenient, we'd like to take a look at your mods' load order. Please open this file by opening any folder in windows and copy and paste this into the address bar: %userprofile%\appdata\local\Skyrim\plugins.txt and post the content here with the spoiler tags around so it's not appearing as a wall of text, e.g.: [spoiler ]paste text[/spoiler ]
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Post by darthorc on Dec 13, 2014 2:09:14 GMT
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Is this what you want?
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