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Post by CollinMacleod on Aug 28, 2019 20:49:44 GMT
I have 26, I guess I am a slacker...
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Post by naramoore on Aug 29, 2019 1:58:28 GMT
Sure are a slacker. But your 26 may be like gold. I looked up what I am actually using. 500 active mods with 302 active plugins.
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Post by naramoore on Sept 2, 2019 2:30:49 GMT
There is an interesting article on The reference handle cap at https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/ag4wm7/psa_the_reference_handle_cap_or_diagnosing_one_of/This is especially interesting given the larger load orders SSE users can now develop using ESLs and ESL flaged ESPs (pseudo ESLs). I got interested in this while working with the author of Anna NPCs on a version of her main mod that would affect the reference can to a smaller degree. I am not sure it was worth the work since as you will see from the numbers below of the worst offenders in my load order that AnnaNPCs.esp is a light weight. 1211 total in [0C] AnnaNPCs.esp. 11877 total in [C5] Destructible Skyrim.esp. 12555 total in [9B] Lucien.esp. 13827 total in [93] SkyrimSewers.esp. 15581 total in [50] CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp 15874 total in [8C] You Hunger.esp. 19284 total in [30] JKs Skyrim.esp. 21953 total in [7B] Helgen Reborn.esp. 43382 total in [6C] Dwarfsphere.esp. 47846 total in [64] 3DNPC.esp. 66667 total in [AF] EnhancedLightsandFX.esp. This is not the end all comparison, because item which over write a ESM reference is still treated like an ESM reference. So for example "You Hunger" doesn't use up as much as one would expect from the numbers, because it mainly replaces ESM references.
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Post by Aatrnasyn on Sept 2, 2019 17:15:29 GMT
Good reminder, naramoore. I was worried about that cap when my mod count started ballooning. Happy to say I'm still less than half way towards the dangerous territory of 900k reference count: Found 305945 temporary and 98281 persistent loaded references, for a grand total of 404226 loaded references. [04:50] Done: Applying script "count_loaded_refs_in_load_order", Elapsed Time: 04:50 The non-master mods I have that load the most references are: (19270 total) loaded references in [17] WARZONES - SSE - DLC - Assault Attack.esp. (47885 total) loaded references in [1D] 3DNPC.esp. (34590 total) loaded references in [37] Enhanced Solitude SSE.esp.
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Post by naramoore on Sept 2, 2019 18:04:54 GMT
I suspect given the degree I have patched and tweaked mods to make characters look better I would end up with black face if I EMSed 3DNPC
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