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Reposted from the Mod Support forum at the old forum site (at forums.elricm.com/emma):
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Post Posted: 27 Feb 2006 04:32 am Post subject: Request concerning Witchgirl
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Title: Request concerning Witchgirl
Post by: Zylox on Aug 18, 2005, 07:32 pm
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First, I wanted to let you know that I really appreciate your mods. I have Children of Morrowind installed and I am in the process of downloading Companionable Cats. I also really like the Witchgirl mod.

I was wondering if you have plans for, or would be willing to, upgrade your Witch girl mod? The two things that I would really like to see added are 1) the new animations you added to Laura, and 2) upgrade the script to a companion 3.1 version.

If you wanted to expand it further with new dialog and quests or the ability to marry Morganna(I have not played it all the way through yet, so I don't know if this is in the current mod) or have children, I would not object Very Happy

Whatever you decide, thanks for the mods you have done! IMHO they make the game much more enjoyable.


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Title: Re: Request concerning Witchgirl
Post by: Emma on Aug 20, 2005, 02:33 am
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Quote from: Zylox
First, I wanted to let you know that I really appreciate your mods. I have Children of Morrowind installed and I am in the process of downloading Companionable Cats. I also really like the Witchgirl mod.

I was wondering if you have plans for, or would be willing to, upgrade your Witch girl mod? The two things that I would really like to see added are 1) the new animations you added to Laura, and 2) upgrade the script to a companion 3.1 version.

If you wanted to expand it further with new dialog and quests or the ability to marry Morganna(I have not played it all the way through yet, so I don't know if this is in the current mod) or have children, I would not object Very Happy

Whatever you decide, thanks for the mods you have done! IMHO they make the game much more enjoyable.


I like Witchgirl a lot, too Smile. She's sort of my favorite, as she is my first quest-mod.

Yes, I'm constantly thinking of upgrading my mods, and especially Witchgirl needs a make-over, for instance better controlled spells. And an upgraded script (not the CP 3.1, though as is doesn't include some functions I would like Morgana to have). Of course I would also like to add the kissing animation to her.

But it is not at the top of my priority list; right now, I'm doing a ver 1.1 of Constance, and a quick upgrade of and old dog-companion mod (as Cait has graciously updated the dog-animation to a better companion-behaviour) and then I really, really need to do an esm version of Lokken before I do anything else.


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Title: Request concerning Witchgirl
Post by: Lady Rae on Aug 20, 2005, 06:18 am
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When you have the opportunity to get to Witchgirl, would you consider not having her yell - "Hey, wait for me".

It starts to get annoying after a very short time. Basically I take three or four steps and then pause for her to catch up - and yes - I am walking and my speed is only 50-60. :dontknow:

Thanks for considering it - and for all the wonderful companions you've done.


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Title: Request concerning Witchgirl
Post by: DinkumThinkum on Aug 21, 2005, 02:51 am
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Quote from: Lady Rae
When you have the opportunity to get to Witchgirl, would you consider not having her yell - "Hey, wait for me".

It starts to get annoying after a very short time. Basically I take three or four steps and then pause for her to catch up - and yes - I am walking and my speed is only 50-60. :dontknow:

Thanks for considering it - and for all the wonderful companions you've done.

Witchgirl's current .esp is just a week short of two years old (I just looked Smile ), and companion warping/following scripts have improved dramatically since then.

So if Emma does find time upgrade her, I think the following will be greatly improved over what you're seeing now. Smile


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Title: Request concerning Witchgirl
Post by: Emma on Aug 21, 2005, 03:13 am
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Quote from: DinkumThinkum
Quote from: Lady Rae
When you have the opportunity to get to Witchgirl, would you consider not having her yell - "Hey, wait for me".

It starts to get annoying after a very short time. Basically I take three or four steps and then pause for her to catch up - and yes - I am walking and my speed is only 50-60. :dontknow:

Thanks for considering it - and for all the wonderful companions you've done.

Witchgirl's current .esp is just a week short of two years old (I just looked Smile ), and companion warping/following scripts have improved dramatically since then.

So if Emma does find time upgrade her, I think the following will be greatly improved over what you're seeing now. Smile


Yes, but that's also why it isn't a simple task to upgrade her... so much rework, so much to be changed both in dialog and script. In many ways, it's easier to start from scratch than to re-work something existing. To tell the truth, I was actually working on a part 2 of this mod back in january 2004... when I suddenly got an e-mail from a certain TeuTonic, who had built a beautiful island called Lokken...


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Title: Request concerning Witchgirl
Post by: DinkumThinkum on Aug 21, 2005, 03:53 am
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Quote from: Emma

Yes, but that's also why it isn't a simple task to upgrade her... so much rework, so much to be changed both in dialog and script. In many ways, it's easier to start from scratch than to re-work something existing. To tell the truth, I was actually working on a part 2 of this mod back in january 2004... when I suddenly got an e-mail from a certain TeuTonic, who had built a beautiful island called Lokken...



That's the same sort of problem I have: all these fantastic ideas, all these things I so want to get done, and just not ever enough time to get anywhere with them. Which is why I have a tendency to get fed up and just quit: the things I really really want to do always pile up ten times as fast as I can get them done, and my goals get further and further out of reach.


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Title: Request concerning Witchgirl
Post by: Lady Rae on Aug 21, 2005, 05:36 am
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Quote from: Emma
Quote from: DinkumThinkum
Quote from: Lady Rae
When you have the opportunity to get to Witchgirl, would you consider not having her yell - "Hey, wait for me".

It starts to get annoying after a very short time. Basically I take three or four steps and then pause for her to catch up - and yes - I am walking and my speed is only 50-60. :dontknow:

Thanks for considering it - and for all the wonderful companions you've done.

Witchgirl's current .esp is just a week short of two years old (I just looked Smile ), and companion warping/following scripts have improved dramatically since then.

So if Emma does find time upgrade her, I think the following will be greatly improved over what you're seeing now. Smile


Yes, but that's also why it isn't a simple task to upgrade her... so much rework, so much to be changed both in dialog and script. In many ways, it's easier to start from scratch than to re-work something existing. To tell the truth, I was actually working on a part 2 of this mod back in january 2004... when I suddenly got an e-mail from a certain TeuTonic, who had built a beautiful island called Lokken...

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Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 08:09 am Post subject: Witchgirl conflict?
Quote from: Lorac
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Hello all!

I read somewhere that Witchgirl conflicts with the Cloak and Dagger mod. I would like to try Witchgirl, but I am using C&D. does anyone know if this is true??

Thanks in advance!



Yes, it's true... the houses are placed at the same spot.
Are you familiar with the construction set? In that case, you could simply move Morgana's house before you start the mod. You might need to move Morgana as well, else she might be standing inside the static from cloak and Dagger.
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Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 08:10 am Post subject: RE: Witchgirl conflict?
* Lorac:
Quote: Ok, no big deal.. I was planning to play her with a new character, so I'll just "uncheck" C&D.. No. I don't know how to move stuff in the CS..

Thanks for the help, as always!
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Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 08:36 am Post subject: Witchgirl: Where is Johnny Walker?
z3fan123:
Quote: I've searched all the underworks and can't find him! Where exactlly is Johnny Walker? Thanks!
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Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 08:36 am Post subject: RE: Witchgirl: Where is Johnny Walker?
MistyMoon:
Quote: I'm right here Wink

No seriously it seams to be a lot of quest bugs in TU, dialogs you want get from NPC's, things NPC don't give you and so on. I am fetching the cloth's for "Johnny Rains" at Milie Hastien's shop in Balmora, but I don't get the dialog "Johnny's Cloth's" that I should get (have locked it up in CS), Sad so now he is standing totally naked in a shack outside Vos :shock:

Also I can't get in to the "Vacant Manor" in Mournhold to find out what happened to "Quixoquinet" Confused It just says "Under construction" (or something like that) when I trying to open the door.

This is not the first time I run in to a totally halt in the mod, to bad that it is so buggy because it is a great mod.

By the way "Johnny" is in the cave next to the camp fire in Balmora West Severs.
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Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 08:37 am Post subject: RE: Witchgirl: Where is Johnny Walker?
Kathryn:
Quote: I think you have been drinking the Johnny Walker whisky Misty lol.

You are referring to Johnny Rains in Qarl's Underground.

I think z3fan123 is referring to Emma's Morgana mod.

I'm sure she will help out when she sees this thread.
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Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 08:37 am Post subject: RE: Witchgirl: Where is Johnny Walker?
MistMoon:
Quote: ahaa OK... my mistake grin *
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Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 08:38 am Post subject: RE: Witchgirl: Where is Johnny Walker?
Hehe, it seems Kathryn is the only one thinking clearly here! BigGrin

Even I thought you were referring to Qarls mod when I first read your posting Embarassed

But, of course I have a Johnny Walker in Witchgirl Adventure.

He is down in St. Delyn's Underworks.

Good luck with the rest of the mod!
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Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 08:39 am Post subject: RE: Witchgirl: Where is Johnny Walker?
z3fan123:
Quote: Oooo, boy, I really thought I missed something in the game! Yea, I need to find Johnny Walker in Witchgirl . I will go to St. Delyn's right now! Thanks!
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Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 08:39 am Post subject: RE: Witchgirl: Where is Johnny Walker?
MistyMoon:
Quote: But what I know Johnny Walker is in my bar cabinet Wink

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Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 08:40 am Post subject: Witchgirl: Cave of Maynuh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
z3fan123:
Quote: Even with your "come from the south" tip, I just can't find the cave of Maynuh. I've spent hours now!! Please help. Which island exactly is it on? Thanks!!
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Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 08:40 am Post subject: RE: Witchgirl: Cave of Maynuh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Elsu:
Quote: I searched and searched.. Finally found it when I shot a Cliff Racer that fell right at the door.. Laughing


Don't look at the pic if you don't want to know exactly where the cave is located..
The arrow in the small inset points at the island.
The arrow in the main pic points at the door.
Sorry about the poor quality, but I made the pic while reading your post.
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img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/Elsu/maynuh.jpg [Picture appears to have been deleted - Loriel]
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 08:41 am Post subject: RE: Witchgirl: Cave of Maynuh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
z3fan123:
Quote: Oh thank you, thank you, thank you! I swear I searched that island and gave up, and now I was looking in the wrong area! I am now a non-frustrated player! BigGrin
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Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 08:41 am Post subject: RE: Witchgirl: Cave of Maynuh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I thank you, too, Elsu :hello2:

You surely made me a big favour here, as I think I would else have spent hours, too, on trying to find the cave Embarassed (haven't played Witchgirl for many, many, many months).

I have saved your map and will put it in the hints and spoilers section for future references grin
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Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 08:42 am Post subject: RE: Witchgirl: Cave of Maynuh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Elsu:
Quote: I am very happy that I could help.grin I spent hours trying to find that cave when I did the quest, there is no way that I am going to forget where it is again. grin

I remember some very good battles as I searched the cave for the first time. Going in the second time was a bit easier as I knew what to expect, but still enjoyable. I have returned a couple more times since then just for the fun of the fight. BigGrin It is also a great place to go for filling soul gems. wink

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Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 09:34 am Post subject: Witchgirl: 3rd Rat (spoiler alert) - plz help,
can't find it mc1gamer:
Quote: I feel so silly but I'm stuck on the very 1st mission for witchgirl. I can't seem to find the darned 3rd rat. After all the time I've spent in that place looking for it, I wish she'd curse me already and we'd move on lol.

So....any help plz? grin
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Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 09:34 am Post subject: RE: Witchgirl: 3rd Rat (spoiler alert) - plz help, can

This is not your fault grin

* If you check the readme, you'll find that the only "problem" I had encountered when I released the mod (years ago) was that a rat occasionally didn't show up in her cottage. As this happens right at the start of the mod, the simple solution is to just restart the rat-quest. I'm sure it won't happen again - it seems to happen like once out of 100 times or so.
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 09:41 am Post subject: Witchgirl: I finally found Myanuh cave..
Elsu:
Quote: After over five hours of searching (real time), I finally found THAT cave.. I might still be looking, but I shot a Cliff Racer that fell to earth right in front of the entrance.. I entered the cave, and through dangers untold and hardships unnumbered I fought my way to the castle beyond the goblin city.. or something like that..

After convincing myself that I had dispatched all opposing forces I proceeded to loot, pillage, and plunder whatever corpses and containers I could find, and upon opening one of the more secluded containers I briefly saw a message near the bottom of my screen, and then the dreaded CTD...

Sometimes I think this game hates me, but I've been playing Morrowind for almost two and a half years and I'm is still playing my original game because I learnt early the necessity of frequent saves; I had hit F5 before entering the cave. After rebooting my secondary heat source, I loaded the Quicksave and rolled through the cave like Grant through Richmond, and saved again before opening the chest again..

No CTD, however this time I could read the message and I was not pleased, but I had found the object I had been searching for, and it was so powerful that I considered keeping it ("Beware the power of the Dark Side, Luke!"). I collected anything of value I could find in the cave and went out side where I stopped for a moment to admire the serenity of a genital rain falling on the water, and to pick a few flowers for a friend who lives just outside Vivec, and was bitten on my backside by a crab! One would think they would show at least a modicum respect for a Nerevarine...

I went on to complete my quest and when it was all over and done, I came away with some new friends and a handsome reward, and I must say that Morgana de Hex has been a very interesting companion, but I can't help wondering if she is going to leave me standing somewhere naked and weaponless, on the other hand I'm not a Nord. ..I wonder if I should warn Leif about that?
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Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 09:42 am Post subject: RE: Witchgirl: I finally found Myanuh cave..
Hehe, I think I know which cave you mean! Myanuh, right... Although I know where it is situated, i also have problems finding it. And still the entrance isn't very well hidden at all. The trick is to arrive to the island from the south, then you'll find the entrance instantly.

Yes, dear Morgana is a somewhat dangerous companion to have around, and unreliable as well grin. If I had made her today, I probably would have made out her spells another way, and added a more "secure" system to make sure that she didn't start to cast the wrong kind of spells at the wrong time (as it is now, I set her magicka to various numbers, depending on what spells she "should" cast, but when you rest or travel, her magicka will restore and she will "forget" her fighting instructions).

But I think I can promise that she won't leave you standing somewhere naked and weaponless - at least not as long as you give her some moonsugar every now and then wink.
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Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 09:43 am Post subject: RE: Witchgirl: I finally found Myanuh cave..
Elsu:
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Quote from Emma:
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Hehe, I think I know which cave you mean! Myanuh, right... Although I know where it is situated, i also have problems finding it. And still the entrance isn't very well hidden at all. The trick is to arrive to the island from the south, then you'll find the entrance instantly.


Yes, Myanuh is the cave I had so much difficulty locating. I had quite a battle the first time I went in. The second time I knew what to expect and no one had the opportunity to get behind me.

Quote from: Emma
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Yes, dear Morgana is a somewhat dangerous companion to have around, and unreliable as well grin. If I had made her today, I probably would have made out her spells another way, and added a more "secure" system to make sure that she didn't start to cast the wrong kind of spells at the wrong time (as it is now, I set her magicka to various numbers, depending on what spells she "should" cast, but when you rest or travel, her magicka will restore and she will "forget" her fighting instructions).


Morgana is delightful just as she is. I have known a couple of Witches in the real world, enchantresses both, although their spells were far more subdued. Morgana reminds me very much of one of them.

Quote from: Emma
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But I think I can promise that she won't leave you standing somewhere naked and weaponless - at least not as long as you give her some moonsugar every now and then wink.


Well... I have meet a couple of naked Nords standing beside the road, and I remember what happened to them. rotfl
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 09:44 am Post subject: RE: Witchgirl: I finally found Myanuh cave..
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Well... I have meet a couple of naked Nords standing beside the road, and I remember what happened to them.


It took me a week, but now I finally realize what you meant with this! :happy8:
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Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 09:44 am Post subject: RE: Witchgirl: I finally found Myanuh cave..
joetheimperial:
Quote: I thought this a good place to drop in and say THANK YOU for both Laura and Morgana! Also may I offer a suggeston: I have Laura carrying extra Moon Sugar (since my PC can rarely trade while carrying it), and Morgana carries extra Gold Kanett (spelling?) Flowers. Got to keep the ladies happy, you know! Wink
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Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 09:45 am Post subject: RE: Witchgirl: I finally found Myanuh cave..
Elsu:
Quote: Quote from: Emma
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It took me a week, but now I finally realize what you meant with this! :happy8:


My apologies. My humor is not always as obvious as I might wish it to be.
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Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 09:46 am Post subject: RE: Witchgirl: I finally found Myanuh cave..
Oh, your humor isn't the problem! grin I had a good rotfl when I got it. But, you see, I haven't played the game for 18 months, so it took me a week before I remembered the scenario you were referring to wink.
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Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 09:48 am Post subject: RE: Witchgirl: I finally found Myanuh cave..
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Yes, dear Morgana is a somewhat dangerous companion to have around, and unreliable as well grin. If I had made her today, I probably would have made out her spells another way, and added a more "secure" system to make sure that she didn't start to cast the wrong kind of spells at the wrong time (as it is now, I * set her magicka to various numbers, depending on what spells she "should" cast, but when you rest or travel, her magicka will restore and she will "forget" her fighting instructions).



I must admit I like Morgana in spite of her little foibles. (the words friendly fire come to mind) Of course, it's not as though I ever met a witch who didn't fry my butt in the middle of melee combat or summon an atronach at the mere hint of a rat. CM_Partners does pretty much the same thing as Morgana. There doesn't seem to be a workable combat script anywhere for magic users.

I have found one good workaround though. I am having some gold bracelets made which should appeal to Morgana. The will have drain skill enchantments for conjuration and destruction and as much weakness to magicka to make them stick. Morgana has some strong resistances. I would really hate to disable her spell casting altogether.

Know anybody who has some nice jewelry that Morgana will wear? I also don't want the poor girl to be running around with something that resembles slave bracers. In return I will make a special effort to avoid calling the resulting jewelry Morgana's Leash, at least to her face.


I'm not sure that those jewelries would have any long term effect on her, and - bewre - they could even start to work reversed, as many constant effect enchantments tends to do so.

I would instead recommend that you do this:
Open the console. Click on Morgana, so that her ID-name shows up at the top of the console.
Type:
RemoveSpell "AA_Morgana_summon_storm _atro"

This should help, I believe.

She DOES obey your orders, and if you tell her not to summon anything, she won't do so unless a) you travel a distance with boat/siltstrider etc (she will then regain magicka) b) you leave her in wandermode, which make her forget your agreements c) You reload your game - then you have to give her new fighting instructions.
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 09:48 am Post subject: RE: Witchgirl: I finally found Myanuh cave..
Elsu:
Quote: "Like them for their qualities but love them for their defects."

I think Morgana is delightful just as she is and would not want her to change.. Her wild magicks add to her character and charm.. Real people are not perfect, why should scripted "people" be so?

If everyone chose exactly the right spell every time and were exactly on target with their spells every time, they may as well be clones...

*chanting*
One of us..One of us..One of us..One of us..One of us..One of us...
*/chanting*

..Even the warnings in the docs lend to her "personality".
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 09:49 am Post subject: RE: Witchgirl: I finally found Myanuh cave..
That's really sweet... :love5: You exactly explain my own feelings for Morgana as well. I love her as she is, with all her faults, and I would miss her unpredictability if she started to "behave". She's supposed to be a little :angel12:

(If you check the other part of my forums here, in the Companion-discussion thread, you might find someone you will like... look for Constance wink).
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Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 09:49 am Post subject: RE: Witchgirl: I finally found Myanuh cave..
Aqtai:
Quote: Is there a lowest and highest level a character should be at before attempting this mod?

Thanks.

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Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 09:49 am Post subject: RE: Witchgirl: I finally found Myanuh cave..
dench:
Quote: Delightful as it may be to have Morgana as my best mate, I was wondering if it is possible for my female character to romance Morgana. If so, is there any way to work around it? Would hate to have to restart the game and play a male just to get her attention, but if that's the only way I can stand a chance of winning Morgana...
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Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 09:50 am Post subject: RE: Witchgirl: I finally found Myanuh cave..
Quote from: Aqtai
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Is there a lowest and highest level a character should be at before attempting this mod?

Thanks.



You can probably play this mod pretty much at any level. If you are too low-level, you might find that Morgana and Leif takes care of most enemies, and you might not feel like the ultimate hero BigGrin. So, it might be wise to be at least level 8-10 before you start.

The creatures you meet are levelled, but the npc-enemies are at approx the same level as in original MW. So, playing the mod with a level 90 character is probably rather boring...
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Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 09:50 am Post subject: RE: Witchgirl: I finally found Myanuh cave..
Quote from: dench
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Delightful as it may be to have Morgana as my best mate, I was wondering if it is possible for my female character to romance Morgana. If so, is there any way to work around it? Would hate to have to restart the game and play a male just to get her attention, but if that's the only way I can stand a chance of winning Morgana...


No, I am sorry, unlike Laura Craft, Morgana won't fall for a female PCChar. Simply because there will show up another npc - Leif - who will want to court your female PCChar.
Much dialog is gender based in this mod, so you will probably get into massive problems if you change gender in the middle of playing Witchgirl.

But, if you want to replay as a male, you won't have to start a new game. Just return to the save you had before starting Witchgirl.
Call up the console, type:
enableracemenu

This should bring up the character creation, and you will be able to change race, gender, face, hair and whatever.
Just one thing - if you are not happy with your choice once you have changed, then you will have to re-load your save in order to change race once more. MW won't accept that you change race/gender etc twice without reloading.
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Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 09:51 am Post subject: RE: Witchgirl: I finally found Myanuh cave..
dench:
Quote: Cheers for that. Thank you Emma! Excellent mod and I really appreciate your help notworthy
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Posted by: Baron of Hell
Post Posted: 02 Apr 2006 09:16 am Post subject: Witchgirl hates me
It all started out good. I killed some vermin. Took her out on a few odd jobs. I even met her grandpa. I thought I had found my one true companion in life.

The good times didn't last. Oh no. Every attempt to admire her has made her upset. What I can't admire a pretty girl. Ok I thought I'll just give her some moon sugar. All she does is say where is then and to not tease her. Then the little Rant blast me with a fireball. I have more moon sugar than a moon sugar fairy rolled up in a moon sugar blanket on moon sugar mountain. But does she care Nooooooooo. Just blast away. Hey you wanted to come with me lady.

Man I don't need this. I'm trying to make my way in the world. I'm trying to raise to the top of my guild. I can not have some crazy lady blasting me with fireballs. I just want the good times back. I want someone to support me not kill me. Please help me with my witchgirl problem you're my only hope.
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Post Posted: 05 Apr 2006 02:58 am Post subject:
Have you by any chance used the TESTool dialog fixme-function? I have had reports earlier that this does screw up the moonsugar conversation...

Else, the flattertopic is based on random 100, and you should have more than 50 % chance to be successful with trying to flatter her.

Apart from TESTool, i cannot think of anything that would affect this in a negative way.
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Posted by: Baron of Hell
Post Posted: 05 Apr 2006 06:28 am Post subject:
Ahhh I did indeed use TestTool. I was using a guide that said I should always use it. It seems to mess up some other modes but I warned about those before hand.

hmmmmm I bet the some of my other modes will be messed up also. Doesn't seem like the type of thing a lot of people would test. I think I'll just reinstall.
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Post Posted: 05 Apr 2006 10:39 am Post subject:
Baron of Hell wrote: Ahhh I did indeed use TestTool. I was using a guide that said I should always use it. It seems to mess up some other modes but I warned about those before hand.

hmmmmm I bet the some of my other modes will be messed up also. Doesn't seem like the type of thing a lot of people would test. I think I'll just reinstall.


Every mod that includes dialog will unfortunately have the potential to be screwed up by TESTool. Please, never use it on any of my mods, because it will break all of them! Sad
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Post Posted: 05 Apr 2006 12:12 pm Post subject:
Baron, you just don't get it, do you? You're clearly buying the cheap moonsugar, not the good * stuff. You think she doesn't know that?

I think you just need an attitude adjustment and she's trying to give it to you! Very Happy
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Posted by: Nostra1
Post Posted: 07 Apr 2006 02:27 pm Post subject:
intrepidacious wrote: Baron, you just don't get it, do you? You're clearly buying the cheap moonsugar, not the good stuff. You think she doesn't know that?

I think you just need an attitude adjustment and she's trying to give it to you! Very Happy

LOL Laughing

Good one. Either that or her idea of affection is to blast someone to Oblivion.

"Moon Sugar for me? You shouldn't have! Oh let me thank you with this little ball of fire. Isn't it purty!? I can tell you are excited by the screams of joy you make. I will give you an extra special ball the next time. " Wink
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Posted by: Baron of Hell
Post Posted: 07 Apr 2006 06:11 pm Post subject:
Reinstalling worked and some of my other mods are working correctly now also. It was kind of funny having her comment on one of the other companion add ons I have. She didn't do that before.

So the lesson here is to buy the good moon sugar and don't use test tool on mods with dialog.
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 08 Apr 2006 09:40 am Post subject:
You got the picture Wink
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Posted by: Baron of Hell
Post Posted: 16 Apr 2006 12:01 am Post subject: Can not talk to companion Witchgirl
This is odd. For some reason I can not start talking to her by pressing spacebar. I can talk to everyone else and my other companions just fine.

I notice this while traveling in Ald-Vendras. I have tried leaving this area, restarting, and waiting just in case it was silence spell.

My current work around is using the advance teleportation mod companion spell to talk to her. That should work as long as she is in my companion list. Not sure what will happen if she is removed by mistake.
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 16 Apr 2006 01:55 am Post subject: Re: Can not talk to companion Witchgirl
Baron of Hell wrote: This is odd. For some reason I can not start talking to her by pressing spacebar. I can talk to everyone else and my other companions just fine.

I notice this while traveling in Ald-Vendras. I have tried leaving this area, restarting, and waiting just in case it was silence spell.

My current work around is using the advance teleportation mod companion spell to talk to her. That should work as long as she is in my companion list. Not sure what will happen if she is removed by mistake.

Have you cleaned the mod with TESTool? Or have you opened it in the CS and done anything with the dialog?

Cleaning any of my mods with TESTool can have disastrous effects. I can't think of any other reason for your problem, except... I remember one guy who did a patch where he changed Laura's head, and for some reason, he had a similar problem to yours.
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Posted by: Kateri
Post Posted: 16 Apr 2006 02:01 am Post subject:
Sounds like she has either an empty greeting from somewhere at the top of her list, or has some kind of NoGreet flag on... (checks mod) - she doesn't have a noGreet variable, so it must be something screwing up your dialogue order?

K.
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Posted by: Baron of Hell
* Post Posted: 16 Apr 2006 07:20 am Post subject:
I made sure not to use Testool this time around. Some more odd stuff. After we searched Solstheim high and low for that darn Solstheim castle we come across another castle, the place is full of them I guess. Anyway we run into vamps. Half way through the battle witchgirl turns on me. So i run the stopcombat console command and finished the vamps on my own while she just stands there. After that she won't follow me. Just stands there looking spooky.

Since this wasn't our first vampire I was wondering if maybe she caught the vampire sickness. Or what would happen if she did turn into a vampire.
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 16 Apr 2006 08:11 am Post subject:
I don't think npcs can catch the vampirism the same way as PCCharacters.

Something is very screwed up with your game, and I have no idea what is wrong. As you know, Witchgirl mod has been around since spring 2003, so it isn't llike this is a 'normal' problem.
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Posted by: Baron of Hell
Post Posted: 19 Apr 2006 08:03 pm Post subject:
Yeah most likely one of the newer mods is messing me up. I decided to reinstall witchgirl which seems to have clear it up now. I put her on ice though and moved on to Laura. So far Laura has been going ok except for Jimbo. Jimbo started doing same stuff witchgirl did. This time I decided to try something new and just left him for 3 days. He is now working fine again. I wished I tried that with witchgirl before reinstalling.

I guess the only way for me to find which mod is giving me trouble is to take out each mod and play them one at a time until the problem pops up.

[loriel]

Posted by: jumping through
Post Posted: 15 Apr 2007 12:43 pm Post subject: problem with morgana
I had her running around with me for a while, she got stuck somewhere and I hadn't met her grandfather yet so I had no way of getting her back. I removed the mod, saved and added it back into the and she's back and waiting for me in ald'ruhn, only problem now is that she has no inventory - the companion share option isn't there and the persuasion options one is. Any way to fix it?
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Posted by: jumping through
Post Posted: 15 Apr 2007 01:51 pm Post subject:
Aaaaaand I've just found leif erikson and there's two of him and neither has a head.
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Posted by: Kateri
Post Posted: 15 Apr 2007 02:28 pm Post subject:
If you removed the mod, you lost all your progress with Morgana, so she gets totally reset, and * everything in her inventory that you gave her is lost.

You have 2 Leifs because you have doubling - when you remove a mod, but your save still thinks parts of it are there - a dirty save. You have one Leif from the first install of the mod, and another from the second.

You really need to clean your save and start over with the mod - Wrye Mash is the best tool for this. It can take a little time to figure out how to use it, but it's well worth the effort if you value your savegames.

wrye.ufrealms.net/


K.

[loriel]

Posted by: ArianWoman
Post Posted: 02 Jul 2007 07:00 am Post subject: Morganas' Grandad
After having met & spoken to M's grandad, when I click on "Goodbye" my screen freezes.
I've tried standing in various spots whilst talking to him but this makes no difference. I just have to Cntrl Alt Delete to exit (which sometimes works) & then load previous save.
This is only happening with this mod & there is no warnings file.
Has any1 else had this prob?
Or how to .overcome cos I really like this mod

Further troubles. Morgana has disappeared. We were leaving the Mages Guild in Balmora (she was right behind me) as I went thru the door she yelled "Wait for Me" & that was the last I saw of her.
Grandad is no help at all & doesn't have any options to ask her whereabouts, I had hoped she had gone home but she's not there either. So now what? Should I carry on the quests without her hoping she will turn up or not? d'oh! Sad Confused

It's 4th July now & no answers to the above so I went back to a previous save to get Morgana back but still find that when in her house I have screen freeze when talking to Grandpa.
I have found I can partially overcome this by only asking one question & then exit. If I attempt more than one response or try to barter then my screen freezes again.
Surely someone somewhere has has this happen to them?
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Posted by: Joe
Post Posted: 10 Jul 2007 06:14 pm Post subject:
Seems if Morgana is not directly behind you and looking at you, she will "poof and disappear" when you load a new screen ... you hear the "hey, wait for me"

She gets blocked my the Mage at the Balmora door ... also, for some reason, she will look at the Mage in Ald-ruhn and not follow

No, she just disappears ... I would not continue
I looked all over the Guild and her home = she was nowhere

I would suggest looking back to make sure Morgana is stopped and looking at you before existing a screen/going thru a door ... basically go slow

Never had the Gramps problem
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Posted by: ArianWoman
Post Posted: 10 Jul 2007 07:02 pm Post subject: Morgana
Thanks for your reply, Joe.
I am still getting the screen freeze when in Morgana's house but am overcoming it by just getting one response & then saving each time - a pain but at least I'm able to progress a bit further. I've been given her communicate ring now so that's a big help. Funny thing is she's behaving now so haven't had to use it, Laughing
I've also met Leif & we're currently looking for the cave Z....? (something)
It's a great mod & I'm having fun with it.
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Posted by: Neko
Post Posted: 10 Jul 2007 09:00 pm Post subject:
I don't know what could be causing this freezing, but the "Wait for me!" moment sounds like the old levitating-through-doors bug.

If a companion is levitating when they go through a loading door, you'll often find they vanish at the other end... and since Morgana is momentarily very far away from you, she yells out "Wait for me!".

I don't know if she was levitating at the time though... still, at least you know what to watch out for. The freezing thing looks a lot worse, I haven't a clue what might be doing that.

-Neko [cat]
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Post Posted: 11 Jul 2007 05:07 am Post subject:
No, levitating isn't involved here - just talking. As stated the freezing only happens in Morgana's house. Rolling Eyes
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Posted by: USPrivateer
Post Posted: 11 Jul 2007 09:38 am Post subject:
That's interesting. I remember Morgana doing exactly the same thing at Balmora MG. "hey, wait for me", poof, gone.

I've gotten in the habit in my game of waiting for all companions to stop moving before going through a door.

Ingred from Domehome staff is also notorious for staying behind in shops. She doesn't disappear, just stays behind. It's actually kind of funny. My PC will be shopping/dumping loot and will wander all over Balmora Expanded and Caldera, and at some point realize, hey, where's Ingred? Fortunately, she has that ring and can be teleported to the PC. Not a very good bodyguard that stays behind to browse the shop, is she?

Morgana will disappear. As in gone, never to return. Simple solution, slow down before going through doors, particularly the Balmora MG. I usually will flip the camera to third person and watch to see that the companions disappear right as I click the door. If they don't, someone got left behind.

Oh, also, I will usually use the upper door in Balmora MG. It doesn't seem to cause as much trouble as the lower door. Don't know why, just seems to be that way in my game.

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Posted by: ArianWoman
Post Posted: 11 Jul 2007 11:58 am Post subject:
Yep, these companions certainly have their own foibles - but they are fun to have around & they watch your back too.

Shopping trips can be a nightmare but usually cos there's not a lot of room to manouvre. Sometimes I tell them to wait outside or up on the silt strider platform tell them to dance Dancing while I run errands.

I've also resorted to walking backwards a lot just to keep an eye on them - it's so funny watching them jostling for pole position.

[doh]

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Posted by: Joe
Post Posted: 10 Jul 2007 06:38 pm Post subject: Witchgirl help
I'm new here, so I hope I'm following board rules ... not sure if "Spoiler" should be applied ... in case someone wants to be surprised by this character

Also, I'm physically disabled with limited manual dexterity.
This may alter advice/tips = since I need two hands on the mouse
Tough using keyboard + mouse ... like a death sentence Smile
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Well, I find out she Summons a Storm Antronach = not good in tight places
Plus, her skills are "awesome"; as she points out Smile

Gramps advice was to let her use her sword, but it's overpowered.
So I gave her a Silver Shortsword; for now.
I added Witchgirl at the start of the game.

I checked her "magical tricks" and "extra tricks" ... I see many useful ones and "Stop all Spells"
Ok, I stopped her spells, so she would use her sword.
But, how do I switch her back into "Summon-ing" ?
Did I miss a dialogue option ?

I thought a "resume spells" would show up; nope.
Am I missing something ?
I assumed I could tell her when to Summon and when not to = according to Gramps

How do I control her fighting style Summon or Sword ... can I control it ?

Then again I see 4 spells per "tricks" dialogue option.
If I choose one and tell her to "stop", I'm back to no Summon-ing ?
Plus, I take a big hit to persuasion.

Not sure how I get Witchgirl to "use" what I prefer(... whether another spell or her sword) then switch back to her default of Summon.

I'd like to have Witchgirl follow me + fight.
But, as it stands, she almost kills me in tight areas because of the Antronach ... I have to tell her to "stand guard" because she would hurt me badly(Antronach) OR she wipes out all enemies with the Antronach/Ebony Sword outside = I would actually like to kill something Smile

Is she basically an end game character ?
Do I just have her "stand guard" most of the time ?

I haven't even used any of her "tricks" = worried about telling her to stop and taking a big persuasion hit

Hope I'm making sense Smile
Also hope I don't become a nuisance, since I've downloaded just about all of Emma's mods.

Hope you can help.
I'd like to get the most out of Morgana, but I'm not sure how to use her.

Thank You !
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Posted by: Kateri
Post Posted: 11 Jul 2007 03:06 am Post subject:
Morgana is great fun, but she suffers slightly from having an early version of the companion setup. Part of this involves the fact that her spells are (I think) basically controlled by altering her amount of magicka.

So if you tell her not to use spells at all, she has all her magicka removed, so she can't.
If you tell her not to summon, she gets given enough magicka to use low level spells, but no big summons.
If she is told to summon, she gets lots of magicka.

If you rest or reload a save, however, the game will reset her magicka to its natural maximum (2x Int, I think) whatever you told her to do previously, so she'll start with the atronachs again.

Not sure if this answered all your questions, but I hope it helps explain how her options work. Unless I'm wrong, it's been a while since I played Morgana! Smile
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Posted by:* Joe
Post Posted: 11 Jul 2007 07:03 pm Post subject: *
Kateri - thanks for the help.
I can't even find the no-Summon option Smile
But, if she still would cast spells, it's moot ... I'll stick with Morgsna "as is"

I see what you are saying.
I tried a few spells and stopped = only a small persuasion hit
If I stop without any spells being used, say Hide for example, I believe I took a 20pt hit ... Ouch !
Then I have to "dance" her persuasion up Smile

Considering we're constantly changing fighting locals, it really becomes a chore.
So, I've opted to just have her "guard" ... I'll wait till my character is roughly on par, where skills/character level are concerned

Was hoping I missed the Summon or Sword option.
Oh well, guess we do without her help; for now.

Thanks for the reply.
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Posted by: USPrivateer
Post Posted: 12 Jul 2007 06:18 pm Post subject:
Joe, PM'd you with some links, additional information and possible options.
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Posted by: Joe
Post Posted: 15 Jul 2007 07:43 pm Post subject:
USPrivateer - thanks for the help.
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Could use a little help Smile
Well, Witchgirl decided to run into some Greater Bonewalkers and her carry weight was substantially reduced.
I'm looking at my notes now and see Witchgirl has a "Cure Yourself" option.
This was noted in Emma's tips section ... but I do not see a Restore Attribute option
Next time Witchgirl gets drained/diseased, is Cure Yourself all I have to use ?
Do I have to give her Restore Strength potions too ?

I re-loaded because, well, I wasn't sure how to cure her.
I did not see any attribute dialogue options.

I'm assuming only Strength is affected ?
Or, do I need to carry around potions for all 8 attributes = since I can't tell if Witchgirl has taken a hit to any other attributes

Hopefully Cure Yourself is all I need.
I have enough to do curing myself ... I'm a walking alchemist shop Smile

Thanks for the help and the PM messages ... you have been most kind/thoughtful

[loriel]

Posted by: DocDave
Post Posted: 21 Jul 2007 07:44 am Post subject: Morgana is running around
Morgana is going in circles, not following me and not fighting with me. I can't get her to stop. Sad I need help on this.

DocDave
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Posted by: Crypts Of The Dead
Post Posted: 21 Jul 2007 09:28 am Post subject:
It happens sometimes with all NPC companions. Try this...

Walk up to her and smack her, preferably hand2hand, but a weapon will do ... just don't kill her lol

Now, she might attack you when you do this. If she does, open the console, click on Morganna and type:

SetFight 0 (hit enter)
StopCombatPlayer (hit enter)

Close console

Also, make sure no other NPC companions are with you when you do this. They will attack you or her.

Hope this helps. Let us know.

Ciao!

John
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* Post Posted: 21 Jul 2007 01:09 pm Post subject:
Quote:

Thanks, it worked! Smile I have nted it for the future.

DocDave
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Posted by: Crypts Of The Dead
Post Posted: 21 Jul 2007 05:47 pm Post subject:
DocDave,

Glad it worked for ya!

Cheers!

John

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Posted by: Oiseau Noir
Post Posted: 04 Aug 2007 10:09 am Post subject: Help with Morgana...
Okay, this is going to sound like an extremely newbish question, but I looked all over the forums and couldn't find a topic that answered my question.


I wanted to know, what do you do with Morgana after you kill the rats in her house? Do you wait for a timed conversation to come up, or is there a certain thing I'm supposed to do? Embarassed

Sorry for the newbishness.
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Posted by: SirCharleyTheCat
Post Posted: 04 Aug 2007 11:45 am Post subject:
Dont be sorry about you´r newbishness, everyone starts as a newbishness.
Talk to Morganas grandfather, but you have to speak to Morgana about meeting him first.
Good luck with you´r gaming! [ES9]
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Post Posted: 05 Aug 2007 02:51 pm Post subject: Thanks!
Okay, thank you! Smile

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Posted by: anais
Post Posted: 05 Sep 2007 07:28 am Post subject: Question ( and an answer maybe) about Morgana
Having the usual problems with Morgana. She disappears going through doors, runs in circles, and gets stuck in corners. It's hard to use the attack/console because I also have Julan and he gets into the fight. At least he did when I was using Constance.
Maybe I missed something but does Morgana have a telepathy ring? When do I get it? A lot of problems with other Companion mods seemed to straighten out with the link of the ring and maybe contacting them. (Constance quit disappearing totally when I got her amulet; likwise Julan.)
I have found one solution that usually works when a companion disappears. It's not pretty but it seems to work:
I've been Using the COMPANION TELEPORT mod and this seems to work for recovering your lost friends.
Make sure that your companion is on your companion teleport list. If they disappear, cast an Intervention or Recall spell and they will show up where you have teleported. It's pretty unwieldy but it works most of the time.
Hope I'm not restating the obvious
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Posted by: melian
Post Posted: 05 Sep 2007 08:33 am Post subject: Re: Question ( and an answer maybe) about Morgana
You shouldn't need to actually teleport to summon your companions, there's a spell - can't remember the name exactly - you get it automatically at startup when you run Companion Teleportation. Just cast that, talk to each companion, and tell the companions you've lost to join you and the others to stay put. Safer that way.

Morgana is pretty old, she doesn't have the same kind of scripts that Julan and Constance have. I can't really tell you anything more specific though - it's been a while since I tried playing her and she killed my char within half an hour anyway (I usually restart rather than reloading). Sad
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Posted by: osiris
Post Posted: 05 Sep 2007 08:43 am Post subject:
Why you don't try "Companions Friendly Doors" by Vorwoda The Black? It's a bugfix mod inclued with his Hippolyta and Decius (scroll down the page)? Maybe it could solve your problem. Smile
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Posted by: anais
Post Posted: 05 Sep 2007 01:45 pm Post subject: Re: Question ( and an answer maybe) about Morgana

You shouldn't need to actually teleport to summon your companions, there's a spell - can't remember the name exactly - you get it automatically at startup when you run Companion Teleportation. Just cast that, talk to each companion, and tell the companions you've lost to join you and the others to stay put. Safer that way.

Morgana is pretty old, she doesn't have the same kind of scripts that Julan and Constance have. I can't really tell you anything more specific though - it's been a while since I tried playing her and she killed my char within half an hour anyway (I usually restart rather than reloading).

Her murderous atronachs are my next question.
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Posted by: anais
Post Posted: 05 Sep 2007 01:46 pm Post subject:

Why you don't try "Companions Friendly Doors" by Vorwoda The Black? It's a bugfix mod inclued with his Hippolyta and Decius (scroll down the page)? Maybe it could solve your problem.

I'll check these out. Thanks.
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Posted by: Aidan
Post Posted: 06 Sep 2007 01:47 am Post subject: Re: Question ( and an answer maybe) about Morgana
anais wrote:

Quote:
Morgana is pretty old, she doesn't have the same kind of scripts that Julan and Constance have. I can't really tell you anything more specific though - it's been a while since I tried playing her and she killed my char within half an hour anyway (I usually restart rather than reloading). :


Her murderous atronachs are my next question.

Ah, but these are things that make Morgana what she is... a dangerously indiscriminate magickal powerhouse. That's part of her charm. Rolling Eyes Cool You just have to get used to battling with her method of 'covering your back'. Get tough enough, get magick resistance or get skilled at dodging her shots, either way, lots of fun.

-Aidan.
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Posted by: anais
Post Posted: 06 Sep 2007 09:45 am Post subject: *

Why you don't try "Companions Friendly Doors" by Vorwoda The Black? It's a bugfix mod inclued with his Hippolyta and Decius (scroll down the page)? Maybe it could solve your problem.

Thanks for allof your suggestions.
I looked at Hippolyta and Decius and couldn't find any thing listed for Companion Friendly Doors. Do I have to load Hippolyta and/orDecius to get it?
I didn't play yesterday. I'm fixing to open the game and try using the Companion Teleport to summon Morgana without using Intervention/Recall.
More laterwhen I see howit works.
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Posted by: osiris
Post Posted: 06 Sep 2007 11:08 am Post subject:
anais wrote: I looked at Hippolyta and Decius and couldn't find any thing listed for Companion Friendly Doors.

Look, it's included in Vorwoda_ HippolytaDecius.zip (just download it). Smile
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Posted by: anais
Post Posted: 06 Sep 2007 05:57 pm Post subject:

I looked at Hippolyta and Decius and couldn't find any thing listed for Companion Friendly Doors.

Look, it's included in Vorwoda_ HippolytaDecius.zip (just download it).

That URL doesn't seem to be up to date.
Sorry I'm so retarded But I still can't find a Companion Friendly Door even mentioned. If it's that easy, how about a walkthrough?
BTW the last thing I really want is another companion(s)
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Posted by: osiris
Post Posted: 07 Sep 2007 07:04 am Post subject:
anais wrote:
Sorry I'm so retarded But I still can't find a Companion Friendly Door even mentioned.

You don't need to run Hipployta and Decius in order to get the 'Companion Friendly Doors' bugfix; it's another .esp included in Vorwoda_ HippolytaDecius.zip (i have downloaded it, checked it, i can swear you that it exists...). Wink
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Posted by: anais
Post Posted: 10 Sep 2007 12:31 pm Post subject:

Sorry I'm so retarded But I still can't find a Companion Friendly Door even mentioned.

You don't need to run Hipployta and Decius in order to get the 'Companion Friendly Doors' bugfix; it's another .esp included in Vorwoda_ HippolytaDecius.zip (i have downloaded it, checked it, i can swear you that it exists...).

Sorry I gotten back but I've been away for a couple of days.
Found it finally and loaded it. Reading the README. Let's see if I can make this work. (I am regrettably a bear of very little brain.)
Thanks for your help and patience.
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Posted by: osiris
Post Posted: 11 Sep 2007 12:41 am Post subject:
No problem, Anais!

However: reading Morgana's readme, seems that the doors bugfix is no longer required (at least with the newest v1.1): which version do you have? Though you can test it the same and see how it works, of course. Smile
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Posted by: anais
Post Posted: 12 Sep 2007 05:43 pm Post subject: Erickson's Armor
Is there a dialogue topic to remove Leif Erickson's armor? Every time we get to Morgana's house he says that he would be more Comfortable
if he could take off his armor but I can't find a command for it.
He does have a command to Put On his Armor.
He also talks about havinga"Little Secret" but after digressing into his rambling war story he ends with "Good-bye." No secret.
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Posted by: Apophis2412
Post Posted: 13 Sep 2007 12:15 pm Post subject:
My advice would be to just load up the mod in the CES and see if their is a dialogue option to remove his armor.


If there is then remember what the topic was. Now start the game, open the console and click on Leif. Then type addtopic "What ever the topic is"


This might break the scripts but I don't see any other solution. Maybe Emma or Kateri might give you a better answer.

One last question: Doesn't Leif have Companion Share like most companions.
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Posted by: blockhead2
Post Posted: 13 Sep 2007 02:32 pm Post subject:
Errr, "companion share" to take the armor off?
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Posted by: anais
Post Posted: 13 Sep 2007 03:39 pm Post subject:

Errr, "companion share" to take the armor off?

* knowing that Leif is an older mod without all the modern conveniences , still my Bosmer can't carry his full set of Orc armor so he can get loaded on Skooma.

Ifhe says that he wantsto take off his armor there should be a command that allows him to do so.

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Posted by: Kateri
Post Posted: 14 Sep 2007 04:45 am Post subject:
I think his armor comment is not so much about wanting to remove it, as much as wanting to remove it and then jump your character's bones, IIRC... he usually leads into this with his little secret topic, but I'm not sure why it's not triggering properly for you.
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Posted by: anais
Post Posted: 14 Sep 2007 08:34 am Post subject:

I think his armor comment is not so much about wanting to remove it, as much as wanting to remove it and then jump your character's bones, IIRC... he usually leads into this with his little secret topic, but I'm not sure why it's not triggering properly for you.

Not my idea of fun, trying to make love while holding my char's mixed light/heavy armor and Leif's full set of Orc Armor by using Companion Share.
It's probably this block that led to my later thread where I characterize the Morgana thread as "boring." Nothing interesting happened with Leif and Morgana after that.
My next thread is titled"Disappointed with Morgana."