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[loriel]

Posted by: vashti
Post Posted: 27 May 2006 05:48 pm Post subject: End of Lost Heir??
I have found Artruhn, gotten hi safely to the emperor, and I think I have done all the side quests for the agents at the secret hideout and have now gone to Mournhold with Mark. My question is: is this it or should I mosey around Mournhold? It SEEMS as though there isn't anything else but I honestly haven't wandered Mournhold.

Confused
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Posted by: Kateri
Post Posted: 28 May 2006 12:14 am Post subject: Re: End of Lost Heir??
vashti wrote: I have found Artruhn, gotten hi safely to the emperor, and I think I have done all the side quests for the agents at the secret hideout and have now gone to Mournhold with Mark. My question is: is this it or should I mosey around Mournhold? It SEEMS as though there isn't anything else but I honestly haven't wandered Mournhold.

Confused

It sounds like you finished it, although I never really pursued Mark's romance option (not my type! Razz ) so I can't be sure.

Glad you got through it all successfully! Very Happy

So what will you play next? Very Happy
Constance is a lot of fun, in my opinion Wink

k.
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Posted by: vashti
Post Posted: 28 May 2006 09:12 am Post subject:
I have downloaded witchgirl. Is Constance from Emma as well?
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Posted by: Kateri
Post Posted: 28 May 2006 10:54 am Post subject:
vashti wrote: * I have downloaded witchgirl. Is Constance from Emma as well?

Yes she is - maybe you should take her along with you and Morgana! Constance benefits from being taken along on other quests, since some of her conversations are a few game-days apart... and I'm sure Morgana would love the company Twisted Evil (She will notice! - Emma's companions tend to interact with each other Very Happy )

K.
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Posted by: vashti
Post Posted: 30 May 2006 09:19 am Post subject:
How come the blades companions are able to transport to Mournhold if there isn't anything there new for them? Just 'cuz?
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Posted by: De Fothers
Post Posted: 30 May 2006 09:26 am Post subject:
I think that the answer to your question is that at the time of "The Lost Heir" creation there were few companions availabe for the player to take to Mournhold - I believe that this was simply Emma's way of helping to address this issue Very Happy

DF
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Posted by: remon
Post Posted: 27 Jun 2006 05:08 am Post subject: what to do with the 3 'brothers'?
Hey,
I 've been playing the Prophecy Of The Lost Heir for some time now. Its a great mod! but now I don't know what to do anymore. Memphsala gave me the old toy from her lost child, but none of the three brothers seem te recognise it. I don't know what to do next. tried memphsala again but she doesn't give me anything new. could you give me a hint?
thanks.
Remon
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Posted by: Cor'Sardeth
Post Posted: 27 Jun 2006 12:17 pm Post subject:
I just posted a hint for you in the Hints&Spoilers for Blades Quest thread and then saw this post... Check in there and see if it helps any... *

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Posted by: Bobben
Post Posted: 30 Jun 2006 08:36 am Post subject: Game Bug in Lost Heir
I've found Insela on the ship and the dialogue has progressed as far as ''I'm sick of this prison. Have you got a divine Intervention spell?" and when I say yes she flips back to "Who sent you?" There is no path in the conversation for me to use the password I was given.

How can I get past this? Is there a console command that can get her to take the scroll? Rolling Eyes
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 30 Jun 2006 09:16 am Post subject: Re: Game Bug in Lost Heir
Bobben wrote: I've found Insela on the ship and the dialogue has progressed as far as ''I'm sick of this prison. Have you got a divine Intervention spell?" and when I say yes she flips back to "Who sent you?" There is no path in the conversation for me to use the password I was given.

How can I get past this? Is there a console command that can get her to take the scroll? Rolling Eyes

there is normally no such game bug. Have you by any chance used TESTool on the mod? this tends to screw up all dialog-intense mods badly, and seems to cause problems with all of mine.
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Posted by: Bobben
Post Posted: 01 Jul 2006 01:46 am Post subject:
Oh! this hasn't happened to others! That looks bad for progressing past it.

I haven't used TEStool since I installed the mod but I do routinely use Wrye Mash with each new installation.

Perhaps I should reinstall Lost Heir to restore any lost dialogue links? Would that solve it? Applause
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 01 Jul 2006 01:59 am Post subject:
If you haven't used TESTools, maybe you are using another mod that conflicts with this one. It's hard to tell, the only thing I know is that this is the first time I get any report about problems in Insela's dialog.

But if there is a mod conflict, it won't help to reinstall the mod...

This is how the dialog should flow in the topic "Who has sent you"

Insela: You are not one of the prison guards, are you? I haven't seen your face before. Now, tell me why you are here and who has sent you!

Player: choice "I just happened to pass by" 1 "I'm Nerevarine. Your boss, Janicia Laboremus, has sent me" 2

Insela: The Nerevarine, huh? Must say that I had expected someone a bit more... impressive. Never mind. You say that Janicia Laboremus has sent you. I guess she must have got my note. I really do hope that you didn't kill anyone on this boat. I happen to have a... friend here, and if anything happened to this person...

Player: choice "I swear, everyone is alive" 10 "Hmm... well, I might have killed a guard or two..." 11 "You know, I really think we should hurry back to Balmora" 12

(as long as you haven't killed the cat or Greenfield everything should be OK here)

I: Well, as long as you only killed a guard or two... Guess it's OK. Now, I must get back to Balmora as quickly as possible. This prison cell really makes me sick! You don't happen to have a Divine Intervention, do you?

alternatively:

I: You did kill someone, didn't you? Well, as long as you only killed a guard or two... Guess it's OK. Now, I must get back to Balmora as quickly as possible. This prison cell really makes me sick! You don't happen to have a Divine Intervention, do you?

P: choice "Oh yes, I have" 20 "Sorry, but I haven't" 21

I guess it is here you have your hickup??

You could choose to say that you don't have the intervention scroll, and then she should suggest that you drag her with you anyway, which should work but take some time.

Something you could try is this (but I can't guarantee that you won't have any further problems):

When you get the hickup, call up the console and type the following:

Journal AA_Khuul 45
StartScript 11A_CaiusInsulatele

The Journal entry is very important, of course! The other command will teleport her to Caius Cosades house.

Let me know what happens!
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Posted by: Bobben
Post Posted: 01 Jul 2006 08:38 am Post subject:
You were right about the reinstalling Emma. It didn't help. Then I tried your console commands. I got:

Quote: Script SysWindow CompileAndRun dialogue topic AA_Kuul was not found in line 1 Compiled script was not saved.

The same for the Startscript line.

Any other suggestions? I've gone back to the ship a couple of times now and there is no change in the loop after "yes I've got one" Even saying no sends her back to "who sent you?" Confused
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 01 Jul 2006 10:21 am Post subject:
Bobben wrote: You were right about the reinstalling Emma. It didn't help. Then I tried your console commands. I got:

Quote: Script SysWindow CompileAndRun dialogue topic AA_Kuul was not found in line 1 Compiled script was not saved.

The same for the Startscript line.

Any other suggestions? I've gone back to the ship a couple of times now and there is no change in the loop after "yes I've got one" Even saying no sends her back to "who sent you?" Confused

Well, if you spelled AA_Kuul instead of AA_Khuul, that's the reason why it didn't work. Give it another try and copy and paste what I have written rather than re-typing it Wink
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Posted by: Bobben
* Post Posted: 02 Jul 2006 07:01 am Post subject:
Err. Just so. When typed correctly Insela took off for Caius' place and I'm off after her.

Thanks a heap Emma!

I haven't got that many mods up. I hope nothing else causes conflicts.
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Posted by: Bobben
Post Posted: 02 Jul 2006 07:03 am Post subject:
Err. Just so. When typed correctly Insela took off for Caius' place and I'm off after her.

Thanks a heap Emma!

I haven't got that many mods up. I hope nothing else causes conflicts.
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Posted by: Bobben
Post Posted: 05 Jul 2006 07:50 am Post subject: A further problem with Lost Heir
I've run into a futher dialogue problem with Lost Heir.

Janicia and I have found the old wise woman and tracked down the merchant Fennennunni Theit.

But when I try to talk to him there is no topic to refer to her or the lost heir. I've got his disposition up to 93 and tried everthing on the menu but they're just the usual things a merchant bystander might discuss.
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Posted by: Cor'Sardeth
Post Posted: 05 Jul 2006 09:05 am Post subject:
Is there a topic about "my valuable goods"? You usually need to do people a "favor" before they will offer to help you...
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Posted by: Bobben
Post Posted: 05 Jul 2006 11:07 am Post subject:
No. There was no such topic.

But based on Emma's comment in LH the thread I went back to the secret hideout and had another go at getting Janicia to follow me up to her room.

I finally got her to follow after going through each likely topic and after that went back to the merchant. Twisted Evil NOW he has a topic on his valuable goods so I went on from there. Mr. Green Mr. Green
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Posted by: Bobben
Post Posted: 06 Jul 2006 04:23 am Post subject: How to finish the quest?
Well! I made it through to the delivery point.

This has been a quest with lots of sneaky twists. I've enjoyed it immensely, when I wasn't chewing my fingers in frustration.

But here I am on the docks at Tel Branora, thugs killed and with my package to deliver but Woodeline will only respond in pleasant generalities instead of accepting delivery.

Janicia is no help. She's still talking about getting to Tel Branora.

How can I get the quest finished? Anyone??
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 06 Jul 2006 01:29 pm Post subject: Re: How to finish the quest?
Bobben wrote: Well! I made it through to the delivery point.

This has been a quest with lots of sneaky twists. I've enjoyed it immensely, when I wasn't chewing my fingers in frustration.

But here I am on the docks at Tel Branora, thugs killed and with my package to deliver but Woodeline will only respond in pleasant generalities instead of accepting delivery.

Janicia is no help. She's still talking about getting to Tel Branora.

How can I get the quest finished? Anyone??


How many badguys did you attack outside the yurt? If you never fought Greenfeld, you need to go back and do so.
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Posted by: Bobben
Post Posted: 07 Jul 2006 12:32 am Post subject: Greenfeld Missing
No, Emma. I didn't fight Greenfeld. If you mean outside the wisewoman's yurt at Zainab Camp there were only five assassins there to kill Memsehab and none of them was Greenfeld. They all had the note from Greenfeld of course.

I've been back over that scene three times and frozen the screen to check.

Even from a distance there are only the five thugs, four ashlanders and two children visible. I then checked around all the yurts and there's no Greenfeld.
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Posted by: De Fothers
Post Posted: 07 Jul 2006 01:28 am Post subject:
Hi there Smile

Greenfield will appear on your exit from the witches yurt (after you have killed her) - a final showdown with him and then on to Tel Branora Smile
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Posted by: GhoX
Post Posted: 23 Jul 2006 08:03 pm Post subject: Blade Quest... I thought it's Tribunal.........
After talked to Azura at the end of Morrowind, I recieved the note of going to spymaster's house...I thought that was Tribunal...

I cannot find that mysterious ship(anybody know, need help), so I go on to gamebanshee to find tribunal walkthrough.............................and what happens next it's easy to predict...
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Posted by: Cor'Sardeth
Post Posted: 24 Jul 2006 02:54 am Post subject:
You may want to read the Hints&Spoilers for Blades Quest Sticky at the top of this section as almost every question you could have has probably already been asked and answered... d'oh!

forums.elricm.com/emma/viewtopic.php@t=572
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Posted by: DrMac
Post Posted: 28 Aug 2006 09:32 pm Post subject: Lost Heir-Holly romance
Hi Emma,
I've completed The Lost Heir, with the help of this forum, it's a great game like all of your mods Laughing
My problem is Holly, I killed Wolfur on day194 and it is now day267 and all I get is a little kiss Crying or Very sad and a few compliments now and again. It not my lack of charm because the other two girls were rapidly smitten . I understand that climate is the trigger,she tells me about thunderstorms, cold wet days and fine days.
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 28 Aug 2006 11:25 pm Post subject: Re: Lost Heir-Holly romance
DrMac wrote: Hi Emma,
I've completed The Lost Heir, with the help of this forum, it's a great game like all of your mods Laughing
My problem is Holly, I killed Wolfur on day194 and it is now day267 and all I get is a little kiss Crying or Very sad and a few compliments now and again. It not my lack of charm because the other two girls were rapidly smitten . I understand that climate is the trigger,she tells me about thunderstorms, cold wet days and fine days. *

Yes, weather conditions are the triggers, so you have to actually be outdoors with her during various weather conditions, else nothing will happen. I.e. if you are just standing in an interioir and letting days pass, you can wait for years and nothing will happen.
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Posted by: anais
Post Posted: 21 Sep 2006 08:54 am Post subject: Mmehepsala's death
What is the Journal entry code for Mmehepsala's murder at the Zainab camp? My last journal entry is that she is being attacked. there is no entry for her death and my char has run into a brick wall talking to Janicia. (The options are something like "Iknow exactly what to do." and "I haven't a clue.") I think after some consideration, that an event like Mmehepsala'sdeath should be recorded for the quest to proceed.
Also, is it possible to rescue Mmehepsala? We've made some attempts and I may keep trying along that line until I get the Journal entry right.
Thanks,
A.
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Posted by: Kateri
Post Posted: 21 Sep 2006 10:40 am Post subject:
You don't get a journal code when Mhepsala dies... you need to talk to the other Ashlanders to get the code you need.

...I think... I just had a look in the CS, it's been a while since I played Lost Heir...

K.
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Posted by: anais
Post Posted: 21 Sep 2006 05:09 pm Post subject:

You don't get a journal code when Mhepsala dies... you need to talk to the other Ashlanders to get the code you need.

...I think... I just had a look in the CS, it's been a while since I played Lost Heir...

K.

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Thanks for taking one load off my mind.
I've got a couple of other ideas I'm going to try. Try now;complain later.
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Posted by: anais
Post Posted: 22 Sep 2006 07:08 pm Post subject:

You don't get a journal code when Mhepsala dies... you need to talk to the other Ashlanders to get the code you need.

...I think... I just had a look in the CS, it's been a while since I played Lost Heir...

K.

I confess to being a "Bear of very little brain."Problem solved. Thanks again for your help.
Regards,
A.

[loriel]

Posted by: anais
Post Posted: 03 Nov 2006 08:34 pm Post subject: Felina missing
My char left Felina Jamina and Janicia Laboremus at Caius Cosades and went to take care of some Temple quests.
We're back and Janicia says that she has gotten information from Felina but Felina is missing. How do I get her back?
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Posted by: osiris
Post Posted: 04 Nov 2006 09:14 am Post subject:
Hum... Which mod are you playing? I don't know it (and i haven't played any Temple quest yet).

However. Assure yourself that there isn't any quest / script who makes Felina vanished at a certain point of the game (i. e. because you must to find her somewhere, for example); if not, you can open the CS, load MW + the mod, and check her ID in the NPC tab... and then type in the console:

placeatpc *put Felina's ID here* 1 0 0 0

and press "enter". This usually brings an NPC or such close to you.
I repeat, be careful in doing this if Felina is somewhere else in game (and you don't know where), because you'll duplicate her in that case.

Then maybe it's better if you wait for other replies here.

Unfortunately, i don't know if the "placeatpc" command resets NPC's quests and dialogue to the beginning, or if it let you able to continue your quests from the point where she is vanished. Sorry.
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Posted by: Kateri
Post Posted: 04 Nov 2006 10:21 am Post subject:
Isn't there a command from Al or someone in the secret HQ that locates NPCs for you?

K.
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Posted by: Apophis2412
Post Posted: 04 Nov 2006 10:58 am Post subject:
Quote: placeatpc *put Felina's ID here* 1 0 0 0



This code adds a clone of felicia to the game. and that doesn't help because the clone wolud have a different I then the original
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Posted by: osiris
Post Posted: 04 Nov 2006 12:00 pm Post subject:
Correct, infact i tested it only with NPCs not placed in game.
Which one is the right code?
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Posted by: Kateri
Post Posted: 04 Nov 2006 12:35 pm Post subject:
Position->1em_Pussy x y z 0

...in an exterior cell, where x y and z are the coordinates you want them to appear at.

K.
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Posted by: osiris
Post Posted: 04 Nov 2006 12:40 pm Post subject:
Kateri wrote: * Position->1em_Pussy x y z 0

Lol, what an ID she has. Laughing Funny english.

But if i type Position->1em_Pussy 1 0 0 0, isn't similarto placeatpc?
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Posted by: anais
Post Posted: 04 Nov 2006 12:41 pm Post subject:
Osiris and Kateri,
The mod I'm using is Blades:the Lost Heir
Thanks for the tips. I have tried the placeatpc... command without success. The console won't take Felina Jamina as her ID, but I'll try again.
I'd forgotten that someone at the Blades HQ locates Blades.
I'm also using the Domehome mod. Whenever one those NPCs gets lost I usually find them chasing kagoutis in the foyada between Fort Moonmoth and Ghostgate.
Felina isn't necessary to the quest anymore(Idon't think) but I like to have her around.
I'll get back when I either find her or go crazy.
Thanks again,
A.
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Posted by: Kateri
Post Posted: 04 Nov 2006 12:46 pm Post subject:
osiris wrote: Kateri wrote: Position->1em_Pussy x y z 0

Lol, what an ID she has. Laughing Funny english.

But if i type Position->1em_Pussy 1 0 0 0, isn't similarto placeatpc?

No.

PlaceatPC creates a new object.

Position moves an existing object in-game.

And, anais, her ID isn't Felina, I think it's 1em_Pussy, iirc...

K.
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 04 Nov 2006 07:06 pm Post subject:
Janicia will take you to the Blades' hideout very soon. If Felina is missing, there will be a guy who can bring both her and other agents back to the hideout again. However, I have a distinct feeling that where you are in the mod, Felina has actually went ahead of you to the hideout and that you will meete her there again, without using any console commands.
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Posted by: anais
Post Posted: 05 Nov 2006 10:24 am Post subject:
Thanks Emma. I guess the problem is a matter of timing. I'll see how this works.
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Posted by: gstafleu
Post Posted: 18 Jan 2007 09:33 pm Post subject: Stuck looking for Artruhn in the Blades quest
Everything was going really well in the Blades quest (a great mod BTW). I had even bought Janicia some fancy armor for our trip to the camps to locate Artruhn. I've now been to all four camps (Urshilaku, Ahemmusa, Zainab and Erabenimsun) and nobody has heard of Artruhn. Some have heard of Mm... (sorry, forgot the name!), but don't want to talk about her. Janicia was with me in every camp except Erabenimsun. In every camp I asked the wise woman, the Ashkans (tribal bosses, I hope I remember that right) if still alive, and some innocent passers-by. Nobody knows Artruhn! What am I doing wrong?
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 19 Jan 2007 04:36 am Post subject: Re: Stuck looking for Artruhn in the Blades quest
gstafleu wrote: Everything was going really well in the Blades quest (a great mod BTW). I had even bought Janicia some fancy armor for our trip to the camps to locate Artruhn. I've now been to all four camps (Urshilaku, Ahemmusa, Zainab and Erabenimsun) and nobody has heard of Artruhn. Some have heard of Mm... (sorry, forgot the name!), but don't want to talk about her. Janicia was with me in every camp except Erabenimsun. In every camp I asked the wise woman, the Ashkans (tribal bosses, I hope I remember that right) if still alive, and some innocent passers-by. Nobody knows Artruhn! What am I doing wrong?

Look around in Zainab camp... there is a girl standing opposite of the wise womans' yurt, if you act clever she will eventually give you information.
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* Post Posted: 19 Jan 2007 07:58 pm Post subject:
Aha, yes, that did it. Thank you very much for your help Emma. I notice the women in your mods like flowers, so here is one for you:

[214542711_]
A bit like a stoneflower, don't you think Smile ?
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 20 Jan 2007 06:12 am Post subject:
Thank you Smile

And here's one for you [ES8]
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Posted by: eric1280
Post Posted: 21 Apr 2007 06:30 am Post subject: Lost Heir help
Hi, is there a walkthrough for this mod. I am stuck right off the bat. I am visiting the Ashlander camps and can not find any info. The have either never heard or do not speak of them anymore. Please help. d'oh!
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Posted by: Oiseau Noir
Post Posted: 04 Aug 2007 09:31 am Post subject: I can help!
The girl you're looking for is in Zainab Camp. Smile

She's a red-headed Dunmer girl, so she's hard to miss. Her name begins with a "B," it's really long, so I don't remember how to spell it, but talk to her an ask her about that Mmephsela lady (spelling)?

* She'll tell you where she is, but you have to do a quest for her first. Well, not really a quest, but a task.

Hope that helps! Very Happy

[loriel]

Posted by: Uziel
Post Posted: 22 Apr 2007 08:48 pm Post subject: hi i got a problem with janice disapearing
hi another fellar had the same problem
i wrote the positon command but she dint come back, when i load my game after i have plugged the game, it comes up with the following notice

unable to locate reference for global script '11aa_mskills2'

and when i talk to janice it says

script 11aa_janicescript6,8 line4 function reference object 11aa_fennern not found

any idea what i can be?? ithe only mod that changes balmora i got is domehome?? does that conflict?? ive played the mod before with my first char with no pronlems, and this chars save have never had lost heir plugged in before?? please write back that it anoys me greatly i like the mod it got action humor and sex Smile three very good things Smile

the mods i use are:

entertainers
areaofeffectarrows
bcsounds
masterindex
lefemarmor
adamantiumarmor
ebq artifact
seige at firemoth
hair_pack
av_fem_armor trib
av_fem_shirts
twomoon manor
wicthgirladventure
suran underworld 2,5
emmas imperial heads
emmas breton faces1,0
emmas dunmer faces
emmas woodelf faces1,0b
emmas highelf heads
emmas nord heads
epptomb
t_lauraromance Smile
loincloth+top pgk
cm partners
centurion extemded stronghold
better bodies2,2
better clochtes1,2
floating +city
tribunal and bloodmoon
well thats it and since its a new complete reinstallation
i havent had any oher mods plugged in

hope you can help me i would really like to complete the blade quest as a girl Smile

yours truly

blessed be

Danny
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Posted by:* Uziel
Post Posted: 24 Apr 2007 02:55 pm Post subject: just wanted to add *
Janicia is the only ony one disapearing if you use the console to teleport to the hideout evrybody else functions normally, just not the most important one i knoe i mayby should have posted this in the lost heir tread but i know how to play it, i just cant get started cuase she disapears noteven forcing her to appear in cauis house works, its just like she disapears like she is died or something very anoying hope someone can help and like i said above the plug havent been activated while playing this game i just rexwntly plugged it in when i became nerevarine, could it be that??
i think the mod have been "installed" all the time but not plugged in those the files interupt the gameif they are installed but not plugged?? sorry for all these dumb questions but im really a techinal noob im no brainac

blessed be

Danny
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Posted by: Uziel
Post Posted: 25 Apr 2007 10:33 am Post subject: fonud the problem
the cm partners mod was the conflicting one Wink
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Posted by: Kateri
Post Posted: 25 Apr 2007 02:38 pm Post subject:
Cool, glad you figured it out!

And thanks for letting us know what the issue was - it means if anyone else has this problem, we'll know for next time! (and then the thread won't go unanswered as yours did, cause no one knew!) Smile

K.

[loriel]

Posted by: Oiseau Noir
Post Posted: 03 Aug 2007 04:53 pm Post subject: Possible dialog errors with Blades Mod?
Hey everyone, me again, sorry for not replying my last thread; I fixed it.

Anyway, I wanted to know, are there some dialog problems with Janicia in the Blades mod? It's really good so far, I like it, it's just these minor dialog bugs are really bugging me.

Well, to the problem.

After Janicia says she feels so ashamed for using my character, she tells me to go and find that Telvanni trader. But the thing is, once I speak to that guy, Janicia's dialog gets weird; she doesn't acknowledge the topic of the thieves who stole his goods, and when I recovered them and brought them back and asked him about Atruhn, she kept using her default dialog about the different things you can do with her, like spellcasting and such. She didn't bring up anything in regards to that woman and her three sons.

Is there any way to fix this?

[loriel]

Posted by: viking43
Post Posted: 17 Aug 2007 10:55 pm Post subject: Fennennunni Theit
G'Day Emma / Others

I've just found Fennennunni Theit and he has asked me to find his valuable goods that were stolen by a pack of bandits.

Unfortunately I'd found and killed the bandits earlier, and have already disposed of all the items.

Oh also sorry, I got peeved and taunted him to the point he attacked me and i killed him.... Ouch

Is there anyway I can move on, bearing in mind that i have a bad habit of regularly hiting the quicksave key, therefore i cannot reload from a previous savegame... Thankyou & Cheers
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Posted by: Kateri
Post Posted: 17 Aug 2007 10:57 pm Post subject:
rotfl
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Posted by: shiro
Post Posted: 18 Aug 2007 12:39 am Post subject:
err, which mod is this from? Embarassed

From what you've written, I'd say you're sorely hosed ;If fennenwhatsisname is alive in any of your saves, I guess you can get the items from the Cs with the player->additem command, but if you've killed him....I'm not sure anything can be done.(even if you revive him, the game still thinks of him as dead if i'm not mistaken.)

seriously, I feel sorry for fennennuni theit [sp?] right now- I can imagine a convo going something like this-

F: so %PCName,you managed to kill the bandits? (looks hopeful)
P: yes.
F: Excellent, then may I have my goods back now?
P: uhh...what ?
F: ...
P: ....
F: but but...they took my (names items) just a while ago, surely they were still carrying them?
P: ......EEK!
F: well?
P: .......oh dear. (guilty expression)
F: wha-? no. tell me you didn't. you couldn't have.How could you? HOW COULD YOU?! (spluttering and expletives )
P: By the gods, you're annoying. Die. (stabs F and goes on his way)
F: ....This *cough*... just *choke* isn't...my... *gak* day.(dies)


~FIN~
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 18 Aug 2007 11:14 am Post subject:
oh dear... Smile

to start with. Don't use the quicksave when you play Morrowind with mods! Especially not if you have more than one ongoing game (i.e. more than one pc-char) as playtesting has proved that things 'carries over' from one game to another when you use quicksave. Horrible but true. So, make 'real' saves instead!

I don't think it would be enough to add the items via the console, as you still won't get the updates of the journal from the dialog with the dead guy. The mod is many years old now, it would probably take me hours to sort out exactly what you need to do to fix the problem.

You can however try to add the following journal entry via the console and follow the instructions in it:

AA_Artruhn 120
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Post Posted: 19 Aug 2007 09:06 am Post subject:
Emma wrote: oh dear... Smile

Especially not if you have more than one ongoing game (i.e. more than one pc-char) as playtesting has proved that things 'carries over' from one game to another when you use quicksave.


EEK! they do? what things exactly? Journal entries and the like?
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Posted by: viking43
Post Posted: 20 Aug 2007 11:01 pm Post subject: Fennennunni Theit
G'Day Emma / Others.. Wink

The strangest thing hapened, I reloaded the same quicksave game,
(the quicksave after I killed him),
and there he was back from the dead again, so I used the console command to add the Hammerfell Jewerly to my inventory and all was well,
he took it the Hammerfell Jewerly and told me what I needed to know to
continue... Wink

Therefore THANKYOU ALL for you're help, and I'm happily on my way
again.. Wink

Cheers
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Posted by: MyCat
Post Posted: 21 Aug 2007 03:46 am Post subject:
shiro wrote: err, which mod is this from? Embarassed
Blades Quest, Prophesy of the Lost Heir.
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Posted by: morovir
Post Posted: 21 Aug 2007 09:35 am Post subject:
Emma wrote: oh dear... Smile

to start with. Don't use the quicksave when you play Morrowind with mods! Especially not if you have more than one ongoing game (i.e. more than one pc-char) as playtesting has proved that things 'carries over' from one game to another when you use quicksave. Horrible but true. So, make 'real' saves instead!


Better advice - don't use quick saves period. I learned my lesson the hard way, and spend the extra 20 seconds to save properly.

[loriel]

Posted by: Night Phoenix
Post Posted: 24 Jul 2008 10:14 am Post subject: Problem with door of hut in Lost Heir. HELP?
Hey i am new to the forum and looking for a wee bit of help, I have travelled to Hla Oad to discover i am to late for H.... but that her sons still stay in the shack. I went over to what i presume was the shack to discover there is no door and no link to get in that i can see eo erm help!
Other than this wee glitch i am loving the mod!
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Posted by: osiris
Post Posted: 24 Jul 2008 11:07 am Post subject:
Check your modlist: you're probably running a dirty mod, or a mod that "modifies" the shacks' doors in some way. I had the same issue with the Laura Craft mod time ago, and it was indeed caused by a dirty plugin.
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Posted by: Night Phoenix
Post Posted: 24 Jul 2008 11:10 am Post subject:
Ok i will see what i can do....i hope its not silgard that is conflicting with it that will take ages to remove
Cheers!
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Posted by: osiris
Post Posted: 24 Jul 2008 11:18 am Post subject:
Ok! However, what we call "dirty mod" is a plugin which contains GMSTs (Game Settings) or various other dirty references which conflicts with the other mods in many way. Oh and if you have trouble, feel free to post your loadlist and someone will try to help you for sure.
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Posted by: Night Phoenix
Post Posted: 25 Jul 2008 10:30 am Post subject:
I tried but cant find the dirty file, perhaps someone out there knows what it might be.
Here is a list of mods i have running
Artificats.esp
Bearyls_head_replacer
Better bodies
Bloodmoon
Clean Instant Hero
Clean Ninja outfits
Clean Solstheim Castle
Gothic facepack
Killgores home furnishings
Mournhold expanded
New Suran expanded
Ravenloft
silgrad Tower
Order of ascadia
weapon roatate

I was wondering if it is possible a file was missed when i downloaded
Anyway cheers to anyone who can help or has tried!
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Posted by: osiris
Post Posted: 28 Jul 2008 12:11 am Post subject:
Hum. I guess that you haven't copied your load list directly from the [Gamefiles] section of your Morrowind.ini file, since I don't see the .esm/.esp extensions nor Morrowind.esm and Tribunal.esm (only "Bloodmoon"): so, open your .ini and check if you have missed something. Doing this you'll can also see your real load order, which is very important to check for conflicts.

However; have you opened each one of these files with TESAME or Enchanted Editor (manual)?
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Posted by: Night Phoenix
Post Posted: 28 Jul 2008 12:51 pm Post subject:
Tada!!!

[Game Files]
GameFile0=Tribunal.esm
* GameFile1=Morrowind.esm
GameFile2=Bloodmoon.esm
GameFile3=SG-MW-ecology-BM.esm
GameFile4=Beryl's_Head_Replacer_v1.0.esm
GameFile5=Weapon Rotate.esm
GameFile6=Better Bodies.esp
GameFile7=SG-MW-ecology-BM-plugin.esp
GameFile8=gothic facepack v1.1.esp
GameFile9=Artifacts.esp
GameFile10=Clean Ninja Outfits Add-On.esp
GameFile11=Silgrad_Tower_internal_build_1-4_3.esp
GameFile12=Killgore's Home Furnishings v1.1.esp
GameFile13=Mournhold Expanded.esp
GameFile14=New Suran Extended NoM.esp
GameFile15=New Suran Extended.esp
GameFile16=Clean Instant Hero 3000.esp
GameFile17=Clean Solstheim_Castle_v1.1.esp
GameFile18=Ravenloft_v0502d.esp
GameFile19=SoT_Order of Ascadia_V2.1.esp
GameFile20=Geonox_Dahrjiinrace_Exp01_Fem.esp
GameFile21=Geonox_DahrjiinRace.esp
GameFile22=Geonox_NirreraRace_V2.0.esp
GameFile23=Weapon Rotate - Bloodmoon.esp
GameFile24=Weapon Rotate - Tribunal.esp
GameFile25=Gothic Attire Complete v1-1.esp
GameFile26=t_lostheir.esp
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Posted by: osiris
Post Posted: 28 Jul 2008 11:49 pm Post subject:
Thank you! Smile
I still have no idea about which file is causing the issue: you run just a few mods and I know the most of them as clean plugins.
So could you please check them again with TESAME (or even Enchanted Editor if you know how to use it)? The only mods I don't know very well are "SG-MW-ecology-BM.esm", "SG-MW-ecology-BM
plugin.esp", "Artifacts.esp", "Clean Ninja Outfits Add-On.esp" and the three by Geonox, so have a good look at them as well.
By the way, have you tried the Bethesda forums too?

And perhaps someone other has any idea about how to fix Night Phoenix's problem?
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Posted by: Night Phoenix
Post Posted: 29 Jul 2008 02:21 am Post subject:
Nope not tried them but i will try running the game without those plugins and i will have a look in TES...not that i really know what i am doing with it but i may be able to work it out.
Thanks for all the help *gives box of chocolates* Very Happy
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Posted by: osiris
Post Posted: 29 Jul 2008 03:46 am Post subject:
Thanks for the box of chocolates! Smile

Yes, you can try a quick playtest with only "Lost Heir" loaded: you'll see that the mod will work correctly, since as I suspect, one of the other plugins you've installed contains a dirty reference which modiefies the doors in some way. Then you'll only have to spot this mod and clean it with one of the utilities I suggested.
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Posted by: Night Phoenix
Post Posted: 05 Aug 2008 08:04 am Post subject:
WOOP!!! Sorted, just finished the Lost Heir...well for now, was very good enjoyed it a lot Smile

[loriel]

Posted by: petergn
Post Posted: 23 Apr 2009 08:46 pm Post subject: Lost Heir Mod: Can't find cave w/pack guar
read in forum that bandits fled toward mountains. Have worn out a pair of shoes and still can't find bandits cave with guar. Is it a new cave? I'm afraid I already cleared it out when I was becoming neverine B4 adding Lost Heir mod. Can U supply cave name?

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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 27 Apr 2009 01:11 pm Post subject: Re: Lost Heir Mod: Can't find cave w/pack guar
petergn wrote: read in forum that bandits fled toward mountains. Have worn out a pair of shoes and still can't find bandits cave with guar. Is it a new cave? I'm afraid I already cleared it out when I was becoming neverine B4 adding Lost Heir mod. Can U supply cave name?

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Hi

the name of the cave is Impenni, and it belongs in the Lost Heir mod - i.e. you cannot have cleared it out before you added the mod. It should be in the Ashlands region cell 7,13 if that is of any help for you. It's pretty much straight west of Tel Vos.
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Post Posted: 13 May 2009 09:04 pm Post subject: *
Thanx. I found it shortly after posting. Now I'm trying to get Holly to be my girl...I turned down Jo's offer and made friends with the nord, she keeps kissing me on the cheek and saying she doesn't want to get involved. I even cleared a house w/fireplace for when she's afraid of thunder, no dice. Have I missed the oppurtunity?

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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 16 May 2009 04:16 am Post subject:
nope. and I think you figured that out by now for yourself.
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Posted by: petergn
Post Posted: 13 May 2009 09:37 pm Post subject: Romancing Holly
Can It be done?
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Posted by: Kateri
Post Posted: 13 May 2009 11:07 pm Post subject:
Yes, if you mean the Lost Heir mod. She has a short quest that she ought to talk about at some point with you.

Actually, maybe you have to talk to Buddy about it first, or trigger a conversation with him... * can't recall.