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Post by valandril on Jul 18, 2016 16:12:54 GMT
So, I'm guessing this could be to do with the Horse Commands mod I have installed, although I've used it before with Vilja and don't remember this issue. Essentially, the problem is as I mentioned in the title - when we've ridden to, say, the Imperial City, and we go through the city gate, Bruse follows. This was also happening with my horse, but with the Horse Command thingy I can just tell it to wait by the stables or somewhere like that. Obviously I can't do the same with Bruse! Is there any "dismiss your horse, please" dialogue option? I *think* I've looked through all the choices but maybe I'm missing something?
Edit: Ah, I did manage to tell Bruse not to follow with the Horse Command power thing, maybe I accidentally told him to follow in the first place when I meant to tell *my* horse to do so?? Erk.
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Post by dogonporch on Jul 18, 2016 16:39:51 GMT
If it's the one button horse command mod....been there.
"Hey, buddy...what are you doing dropping big steaming piles in the Tiber Septim? Clean-up on aisle 2...."
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Post by valandril on Jul 18, 2016 18:38:09 GMT
Ha! Sounds about right... Not sure if it's the same mod, I have a 'lesser power' that does a whistle thing, and I think it adds saddlebags or something? (Can't remember how to get/access those, though.)
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Post by dogonporch on Jul 18, 2016 19:05:47 GMT
That's the one. I keep killing my horse driving them over cliffs. They're safer w/o me.
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Post by valandril on Jul 20, 2016 22:31:47 GMT
That's the one. I keep killing my horse driving them over cliffs. They're safer w/o me. Oh dear! I must admit, this is one area I cheat a little and give my horse a massive health boost in the console. Can't bear horses or companions to die...
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Post by dogonporch on Jul 20, 2016 22:43:17 GMT
That's the one. I keep killing my horse driving them over cliffs. They're safer w/o me. Oh dear! I must admit, this is one area I cheat a little and give my horse a massive health boost in the console. Can't bear horses or companions to die... For a companion like Vilja, you can use this handy file and make her essential. I use the 600 second version (real time). Much better than the 10 second default in Oblivion. It will change the way you play the game. www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/21425/?
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Post by Emma on Jul 21, 2016 0:43:22 GMT
Oh dear! I must admit, this is one area I cheat a little and give my horse a massive health boost in the console. Can't bear horses or companions to die... For a companion like Vilja, you can use this handy file and make her essential. I use the 600 second version (real time). Much better than the 10 second default in Oblivion. It will change the way you play the game. www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/21425/?Of course you can use the options book in the Vilja mod to set her to essential, without using any other mods at all.
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Post by dogonporch on Jul 21, 2016 0:56:28 GMT
Emma, the mod I linked to merely increases the time the NPC spends unconscious. I use a version that lasts 10 real minutes. So if Vilja is essential, she can still get knocked out of a fight. Poor wording in that first post...
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Post by valandril on Jul 21, 2016 15:14:39 GMT
Oh, that sounds useful, actually! Well, in a masochistic sort of way - I play Skyrim with Requiem and two to three followers, who usually spend most of any dragon fights crawling around on the floor as they have basically no health regen in combat unless I can spare the attention and magicka to heal them (not with Dragon Combat Overhaul, I can't...)
With that mod, does she stay unconscious for the full five minutes, or does she wake up after combat finishes?
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Post by jgf on Jul 21, 2016 16:19:10 GMT
Oh dear! I must admit, this is one area I cheat a little and give my horse a massive health boost in the console. Can't bear horses or companions to die... There is a simple mod which makes your horse(s) essential (zom813 - Your Unkillable Horses 1.0), they run away when their health drops to about 20% (usually not far, though if it's night you may search a while; a detect life spell helps). And it is essential to make Vilja essential, though I do it in her menu. For some reason, even though they are not aggressive and ignore us, she insists on attacking will-o-wisps ...and invariably loses. FWIW, I have never purchased a horse in Oblivion (nor stolen one). At the start I will get the free horse but it isn't long before I am faster than the horse, and by the time I can spare funds for a faster horse ...I am faster than that one. So I find them useful solely as transportation in the mountains; they can go almost anywhere, while your character will literally spend days circling a mountain seeking a slope they can climb.
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Post by dogonporch on Jul 21, 2016 16:29:13 GMT
Full fathom five...errrr...ten (minutes)...yes the full 600 seconds...unless you change cells by load screen.
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Post by dogonporch on Jul 21, 2016 16:50:28 GMT
Oh dear! I must admit, this is one area I cheat a little and give my horse a massive health boost in the console. Can't bear horses or companions to die... There is a simple mod which makes your horse(s) essential (zom813 - Your Unkillable Horses 1.0), they run away when their health drops to about 20% (usually not far, though if it's night you may search a while; a detect life spell helps). And it is essential to make Vilja essential, though I do it in her menu. For some reason, even though they are not aggressive and ignore us, she insists on attacking will-o-wisps ...and invariably loses. FWIW, I have never purchased a horse in Oblivion (nor stolen one). At the start I will get the free horse but it isn't long before I am faster than the horse, and by the time I can spare funds for a faster horse ...I am faster than that one. So I find them useful solely as transportation in the mountains; they can go almost anywhere, while your character will literally spend days circling a mountain seeking a slope they can climb. Just to clarify once again, I'm not suggesting a mod is needed to make Vilja essential. What the mod linked does is make essential NPCs stay unconscious for longer periods...you choose how long via the esp.
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Post by jgf on Jul 21, 2016 17:51:59 GMT
just responding to the OP, "Can't bear horses or companions to die..."
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Post by valandril on Jul 21, 2016 18:20:35 GMT
Oh, yeah, Vilja and Fergus are *always* set to essential in my games, it's not like I'd just let them stay dead so it'd just be a reload, I'd rather just give them plot armour
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Post by Sniffles on Jul 22, 2016 0:35:46 GMT
I prefer doing reloads of saves. If you screw up and someone dies, learn the error of your ways and try something different. This forces strategy.
When Sporksy plays it's fun to watch and a learning lesson for most game players. She's extremely fast on the keyboard and consolidates movements. So a save game is ZAP and she takes a sip of her drink while it does it's thing. Then she pits her reflexes and weapon capability against the enemies. This is ultra real hard core game play. I watched her the other day and it made me clench cheeks and fists. Walk up to a certain spot and 5 enemies would come storming out. In that case it was 5 death claws. She got dead, reloaded and calculated. It will take 9 shots and I have 12 seconds. Dead and reload. 9 shots and 10 seconds. Dead, reload. 9 shots with an extra 2, back up as shots 7 and after are fired... and so on. And she finally pulled it off. Same with dragons only much worse. No companions, none set essential, may die.
She may spend an entire hour in one 20 or 30 second fight. It makes me want to scream and leave the room when she actually pulls it off. Like the other day. Test run and only the PC and M'rissi survived. Legendary difficulty, Legendary dragon. So replay after replay blowing over an hour. She finally wins. Vilja recovers from being stunned but nobody dead. She looks at the time and BANG, reload without a save. Has time that evening to do it better. I had to leave the room or start banging my head against walls.
What really gets to me is when she goes hard core fanatic max mode: Tada! I pulled that off. Then she removes the PCs armor, or even everyone's armor, and starts it all over again. That's when I go for a drive and buy us ice cream, taking the long way home. A refined satisfaction in looting the corpse(s) and a screen shot of the naked conquerors.
(She just reminded me of the nude PC taking down a revered dragon in Legendary mode using the vanilla Angi's bow: Only took about 6 hours gameplay over 2 days.)
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