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Post by Sniffles on Aug 2, 2020 11:41:45 GMT
So will mod organizer check for mod updates?
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Post by Aatrnasyn on Aug 2, 2020 11:44:24 GMT
I've been very happy with MO2, love that it keeps each mod in their own separate directory (so multiple mods that include files with the same name don't destroy those files from the other mods, they just overwrite those files in memory, in its virtual filesystem userspace), and that you can move mods above or below others after the install, and can hide and unhide individual components of mods and that it works well with LOOT. The SSE MO2 page says it is compatible with both Skyrim and Skyrim SE, but haven't tested that (I moved to SSE before I moved to MO2). Mod Organizer 2 is a mod manager created by Tannin to support 64bit games like Skyrim Special Edition and Fallout 4 in addition to all the 32bit games MO1 already supported. But MO2 comes with its own set of requirements: Requirements: Mod Organizer 2 depends on the MSVC 2019 runtime library. You must download and install this for MO2 to work properly (in addition to the extra steps written above). Download and install the x64 versions of the 2019 redistributable: VC redist x64 If you are not on Win10 you might also need: support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2999226/update-for-universal-c-runtime-in-windowsThe installer version should automatically handle this step for you. It's probably best not to install it under Program Files.
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Post by naramoore on Aug 2, 2020 16:24:34 GMT
I manually installed my mods. So I now have a gigantic mess in a folder along with all sorts of patches, and some or most are outdated. I'd like to have a mod organizing program that can check for updates that actually connects to Nexus. Then I have no idea what patches are the right ones. Mess mess messssssssss. Nertz. Personally I would go with the legacy Mod Organizer over Nexus Mod Manager. I have used both and MO is only slightly harder to use and give superior control over your install. MO can check for updates. I don't use LOOT except when I are early in the install process. It okay if you don't know what your doing, but once you do you can do a better job manually. I use a lot of patches to make thing work just they way I want and LOOT really spoils that by moving the order of things. You wouldn't believe how complex my "character visual overhaul" is. I use 19 different mod files and if they get out of order I have black/gray face everywhere. I also quit using MASH/SMASH or what ever the auto patcher is called for the same reason. Being able to do small individual patches is an advantage of SE since I can load many of them into the FE area. So my approach of many small patches may not suite your setup. Depends on how many mods your using. Many of the serious Dev types swear by WRYE. The documentation is very technical, usually out of date, etc. So I have never tried using it. VORTEX: Never tried it or even looked at it. So I have no opinion. Short Version: Mod Organizer is much superior to Nexus Mod Manager.
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Post by naramoore on Aug 2, 2020 16:26:52 GMT
So will mod organizer check for mod updates? Yes
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Post by Aatrnasyn on Aug 5, 2020 18:17:31 GMT
Floating Healthbars Floating Damage Equipment Durability System (I just use the feature that displays your currently worn armor and spells and shouts on screen)
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Post by Aatrnasyn on Aug 8, 2020 8:56:37 GMT
Real Names
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Post by Aatrnasyn on Aug 19, 2020 13:19:22 GMT
Making any progress with your Skyrim install, Sniffles?
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Post by dogonporch on Aug 19, 2020 14:25:05 GMT
Making any progress with your Skyrim install, Sniffles? I have to say that Skyrim is a challenge to mod-up to one's liking. What I did is create multiple installs of Skyrim via Steam and then proceeded to break several until I learned what NOT to do...big list...but now...and several test installs later...finally getting a version worthy of long play with all the bells & whistles...popular ones anyways. Now Mrs Dog is glued to it most evenings as of late if the weather is rotten. The thing we're really surprised at that was missing...radiant AI as in Oblivion. Nobody interacts unless scripted to do so... Well...with the exception of Ms Vilja who seems to be able to handle the occasional dialogue with other third party mods. One feature I really like...Vilja's ability to den mother other followers...a God-send. "Keep Vilja company...." Brilliant....
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Post by Sniffles on Aug 21, 2020 15:38:03 GMT
Making any progress with your Skyrim install, Sniffles? I have to say that Skyrim is a challenge to mod-up to one's liking. What I did is create multiple installs of Skyrim via Steam and then proceeded to break several until I learned what NOT to do...big list...but now...and several test installs later...finally getting a version worthy of long play with all the bells & whistles...popular ones anyways. One feature I really like...Vilja's ability to den mother other followers...a God-send. "Keep Vilja company...." Brilliant.... That pretty much sums it up. I'm about ready to wipe the install out and start again. It turned into chaos soup with cat flavored biscuits. And.... I lost track of things and my master plan went sideways. Twice. Not paying attention I let Mod Organizer put the mods on the same drive the game is on and ran out of room. Then I realized I didn't need to put the mods on an SSD at all and now it's a hopeless mess.
Vilja; den mother. Perfect. The sine quo non of Skyrim.
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Post by Aatrnasyn on Aug 21, 2020 15:59:06 GMT
There are a few MO2 mod installation tutorials on the nexus you might want to look over. The one I used when first beginning to use MO2 was Use your own experience as to what mods to install, but it may give you some ideas regarding the installation order to use (if you can get motivated to give an install of SLE another go-round).
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Post by dogonporch on Aug 21, 2020 20:22:00 GMT
There are a few MO2 mod installation tutorials on the nexus you might want to look over. The one I used when first beginning to use MO2 was Use your own experience as to what mods to install, but it may give you some ideas regarding the installation order to use (if you can get motivated to give an install of SLE another go-round).
...and the ol' FNIS and FNIS again. Oh...and once more for good luck.
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Post by dogonporch on Aug 21, 2020 20:28:56 GMT
I have to say that Skyrim is a challenge to mod-up to one's liking. What I did is create multiple installs of Skyrim via Steam and then proceeded to break several until I learned what NOT to do...big list...but now...and several test installs later...finally getting a version worthy of long play with all the bells & whistles...popular ones anyways. One feature I really like...Vilja's ability to den mother other followers...a God-send. "Keep Vilja company...." Brilliant.... That pretty much sums it up. I'm about ready to wipe the install out and start again. It turned into chaos soup with cat flavored biscuits. And.... I lost track of things and my master plan went sideways. Twice. Not paying attention I let Mod Organizer put the mods on the same drive the game is on and ran out of room. Then I realized I didn't need to put the mods on an SSD at all and now it's a hopeless mess.
Vilja; den mother. Perfect. The sine quo non of Skyrim.
I ended-up wrecking four perfectly good vanilla installs...much to my wife's PC's peril. But I learned a thing or three in the process... Step one after install...Script Extender. Followed by all those damn patches that seem essential like brawl-bug.Den Mother: Lots of companions out there...few comparable to Vilja. That she can corral all those extra idiots is awesome.
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Post by blockhead on Aug 21, 2020 20:32:08 GMT
chaos soup with cat flavored biscuits
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Post by Sniffles on Aug 24, 2020 3:37:56 GMT
That pretty much sums it up. I'm about ready to wipe the install out and start again. It turned into chaos soup with cat flavored biscuits. And.... I lost track of things and my master plan went sideways. Twice. Not paying attention I let Mod Organizer put the mods on the same drive the game is on and ran out of room. Then I realized I didn't need to put the mods on an SSD at all and now it's a hopeless mess.
Vilja; den mother. Perfect. The sine quo non of Skyrim.
I ended-up wrecking four perfectly good vanilla installs...much to my wife's PC's peril. That makes me feel better. I'm not the only disaster area achiever. There is simply way way WAY too many essential support programs and mods, and support programs for the support programs, and tutorials, and tutorials for the tutorials. And of course, don't forget you must install Z, X-13, the fourteen libraries of Zulch and patches 3, 6, and 129 first before you............ Let me get Squishy's rifle and I'll show you exactly where you can stick all those dependencies!
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Post by dogonporch on Aug 24, 2020 13:12:17 GMT
I ended-up wrecking four perfectly good vanilla installs...much to my wife's PC's peril. That makes me feel better. I'm not the only disaster area achiever. There is simply way way WAY too many essential support programs and mods, and support programs for the support programs, and tutorials, and tutorials for the tutorials. And of course, don't forget you must install Z, X-13, the fourteen libraries of Zulch and patches 3, 6, and 129 first before you............ Let me get Squishy's rifle and I'll show you exactly where you can stick all those dependencies! It's not quite that bad, but it does seem baffling at first. The script extender and unofficial patch (USLEEP) are first...Sky UI and a few others next (Race Menu for example)...then you can start adding what you like. FNIS is a must if you plan on adding ANY extra animations not found in basic Skyrim. I mean ANY...not just Sexlab stuff. Other mods deemed essential can be added as needed as per the requirements of the mods you're installing. Brawl Bug...etc. In the end...worth it. Especially Vilja who is a step above 99.9% of followers made for Skyrim...with exceptions. My biggest complaint about Skyrim is the clothes system which they seem to have been made intentionally moronic & difficult all in the name of keeping potato headed children dressed...oh...you'll want to fix them...creepy little things after getting used to Emma's realistic kids in Oblivion. RS Children seems the most popular. There ARE some Vilja level followers that are fun to add to the mix... Inigo...a must...Vilja's friend. Anna's NPCs...a dozen fully voiced NPCs that all interact. Recorder...a cheap drunk and very fun. Sofia...the anti-Vilja. Find her naked in a stable... Professor Ben...like having John Cleese in your party. Interesting NPCs...what it says. If better bodies are desired...we use CBBE for the girls and Favored Soul for the men... There are Skyrim versions of Set Body (for men and women)...those plus Body Slide gives endless different body types on demand. Special body meshes exist for bigger girls...skinny girls...etc. The HDT Extended Skeleton is the standard these days...it has all the extra nodes for the realistic jiggling expected of characters. Looks great once all the breathing idles are in, etc... Tips... Use the Mod Manager's Work-around tabs to backdate all your BSA files...essential for most 'loose' mods to work properly. The joys of Windows 10...be sure Steam/Skyrim isn't in C-->Program Files...make a new root folder or a new drive partition. With Win 10, be sure your downloads aren't 'blocked to protect your computer'...right-click on the d/l zip file...check properties...unblock if needed. This file...allows all your mods to load at the start of a new game rather than in dribbles & spurts over hours of game-play...
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