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Emma
Oct 3, 2014 23:51:28 GMT
Post by Seyheb on Oct 3, 2014 23:51:28 GMT
... accents come from exposure to an environment with the majority of people speaking with a certain accent. The longer the exposure, the more the accent is adopted... Agreed, Sniffles. I was born and brought up in the North of England, but I worked for many years in the English East Midlands. Of course people down there referred to my northern accent, but when I came back to the north again, people mentioned my East Midlands accent! I think the truth was somewhere in between. However there's no such thing as a single north of england accent, there are many variations, most of which people from outside the area wouldn't notice. My family came originally from the Yorkshire Dales in the Pennine hills and as my ear is attuned to it, to me the accent is quite distinct from the rest of North Yorkshire, which in turn to me is distinct from the rest of Yorkshire and so on. Ask someone from outside the area to tell the differences and they probably couldn't.
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Emma
Oct 4, 2014 0:14:43 GMT
Post by CollinMacleod on Oct 4, 2014 0:14:43 GMT
I bet you still can't say Aluminum properly Seyheb.
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Emma
Oct 4, 2014 0:42:32 GMT
Post by jet4571 on Oct 4, 2014 0:42:32 GMT
a(like in About) loom in um is how's its pronounced in my corner of the world.
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Post by Dova on Oct 4, 2014 1:10:50 GMT
The extra "i" changes pronunciation; of course I go with the original proposed name aluminum, not aluminium.
I always have a feeling that people who are not native English speakers are more judgmental of other's English accents, and here I think that they are more exciting to hear than American English (unless they are professors trying to teach...)
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Post by CollinMacleod on Oct 4, 2014 2:09:46 GMT
Probably why I prefer to watch Doctor Who, rather than the junk on Syfi.
All the really good villains have English accents.
Accents are interesting. People that complain about an accent, really have sad sheltered lives.
When I was playing Oblivion years ago and I grabbed Vilja, I did it because of the extensive character. Then I heard her accent. I never thought to myself, gosh she is hard to understand. I thought to myself, I need to pay better attention to what she is saying. Because she was interesting.
I still hear the accent, but no more than I hear the accent of friends of mine that are Greek or Spanish.
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Emma
Oct 4, 2014 5:29:50 GMT
Post by Sniffles on Oct 4, 2014 5:29:50 GMT
The extra "i" changes pronunciation; of course I go with the original proposed name aluminum, not aluminium. I always have a feeling that people who are not native English speakers are more judgmental of other's English accents, and here I think that they are more exciting to hear than American English (unless they are professors trying to teach...) Der originanikel name wert alum-ium. A metal derived from various minerals. At the period of it's discovery most often derived from various alum compounds. (KAl(SO4)2ยท12H2O) potassium alum deprominating.
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Emma
Oct 4, 2014 8:38:55 GMT
Post by wotan on Oct 4, 2014 8:38:55 GMT
The extra "i" changes pronunciation; of course I go with the original proposed name aluminum, not aluminium. I always have a feeling that people who are not native English speakers are more judgmental of other's English accents, and here I think that they are more exciting to hear than American English (unless they are professors trying to teach...) Aluminium is how several other languages pronounce it. It's aluminum in English though.
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Post by Seyheb on Oct 4, 2014 9:00:41 GMT
The extra "i" changes pronunciation; of course I go with the original proposed name aluminum, not aluminium. I always have a feeling that people who are not native English speakers are more judgmental of other's English accents, and here I think that they are more exciting to hear than American English (unless they are professors trying to teach...) Aluminium is how several other languages pronounce it. It's aluminum in English though. It is Aluminium in English and in most countries and that is the IUPAC (International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry) standard international spelling, though the spelling Aluminum which is used mostly in the US and Canada is recognised as an acceptable variant by IUPAC, so both spellings are acceptable. However, it really doesn't matter.
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Post by jet4571 on Oct 4, 2014 9:23:52 GMT
Then I heard her accent. I never thought to myself, gosh she is hard to understand. I thought to myself, I need to pay better attention to what she is saying. Because she was interesting. I still hear the accent, but no more than I hear the accent of friends of mine that are Greek or Spanish. I agree. I never had an issue with the accent and actually prefer it over hearing American accents. If I wanted to listen to an American talk I can go talk to them all day long. But that's boring in a game! Not boring is Emma's accent because it is more rare to hear one like hers for me. German, British(as in all of them not just England), Aussie, Russian... yep I hear those often enough so Emma's is a treat to my ears. When people complain and say she is hard to understand I feel sorry for them because they have so little experience in the world and so little desire to experience. Funny thing is I have heard Southern accents that are so strong you can barely tell they are speaking English and those people who complain about Emma have no clue what a strong accent that makes the words hard to understand is like and most can find those accents without a passport. Here's one that my ex GF from back east always laughed at me for.. cement. I and everyone in Cali I know pronounce it as SeeMint but in Connecticut it is pronounced sument How they get Cement to rhyme with submit is beyond me but they do.
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Post by wotan on Oct 4, 2014 10:36:28 GMT
Seyheb is right - it was the spell checker trhat was wrong. Damned thing should know all spellings and not correct correct ones. Note to self: Forget spell check, check Oxford dictionary instead - they actually know stuff
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Emma
Oct 4, 2014 11:57:33 GMT
Post by rhyls on Oct 4, 2014 11:57:33 GMT
I do love this forum. Here I was just letting Emma know(reinforcing)that her accent is just right,, Like most of us here now, the regular Vilja fans? I don't hear any differences anymore. And now 26 entries on language differences. Wonderful! All very amicably entered. rhyls
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Post by Sniffles on Oct 4, 2014 13:23:55 GMT
Personally I love the way Emma mispronounces words occasionally. I say mispronounces if the broadest textbook sense for a very credible real reason: With few exceptions, nobody pronounces English or any other language perfectly. Even the ones who have perfect pronunciation are only partly right when there are two or more ways of saying a word. But be that as it may, the English language is up to it's eyeballs in deliberate and perfectly acceptable mispronunciations. Add to that wordsmiting where there is no correct pronunciation. Add to all that deliberate mispronunciations. We are after all, allowed to play in the yard as we see fit and if I want to put the emPHAsis on the wrong syLAble or conglomperate my own deviaention the word cops can go suck the big huevos.
So Emma's little foibles are only foibles in the strictest most pedantic sense. They are understandable, quaint, and to me, endearing. And anywayses, when one chooses to mispronuncicate and use magniloquence or be logorrheic simultaneously, the average inglish speeker has to grabeth ta dikshunairy just to tell the foops from the drookies.
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Emma
Oct 4, 2014 17:29:26 GMT
Post by Wolf on Oct 4, 2014 17:29:26 GMT
I bet you still can't say Aluminum properly Seyheb. Although Aluminium is written exactly the same in German, it is pronounced completely differently. In English it is: Alummmminium or even Alummmnm In German it is: Aloumeeeenioum or Alou mean youm:)
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Emma
Oct 4, 2014 17:51:00 GMT
Post by wotan on Oct 4, 2014 17:51:00 GMT
I bet you still can't say Aluminum properly Seyheb. Although Aluminium is written exactly the same in German, it is pronounced completely different. In German it is: Aloumeeeenioum or Alou mean youm:) It's the same in Swedish.
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Post by CollinMacleod on Oct 4, 2014 21:03:22 GMT
rhyls, we are amicable because we are here, or rather, because these are Emmas' forums, the ONLY reason we would be here and posting, and chatting with each other. Is that we truly care about Vilja, and Emma, and the work and I DO MEAN WORK, that was done by her and Amgepo and Wolf and others. Vilja is a Concert, with a very very good conductor.
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