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Post by zedtsayid on Aug 17, 2015 15:14:33 GMT
Sniffles that be why I did a clean vanilla reinstall last week. I don't fault mod makers, it's all on Bethesda and poor choices in building Skyrim.
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Post by Cybersquirt on Aug 19, 2015 8:44:47 GMT
I'm getting Fudgey the Sands of Time and Genesis mods for a present. If Sands turns out to be hoards of the wuss I'm going to hold you both responsible. I didn't recommend anything! I would highly recommend reading through the posted comments before you decide - lots of complaints about being monster bait - they both look like highly involved mods. On SkyUI - I stayed with 4.1 as well. #%&*^ STEAM and it's auto-update almost ruined that, unsubscribing did the trick. Why don't you like it Sniffles? As to the saves cleaner, I really like www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/53045/?
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Post by Sniffles on Aug 19, 2015 11:36:34 GMT
I'm still holding you responsible. I reserve the right to be irrational and arbitrary! I tried the save game scalpel. It looks like I could easily turn my saves into Bratwurst with chocolate frosting. I dislike menus, period. I spend as little time as possible fussing in them. Making them all foofy and pretty just reminds me that I don't want to look at them. Also reminds me odf watching those Dark Souls videos where you get to not see or understand what the person is doing for 5 or 10 minutes at a time fussing with incomprehensible menus. One entire 45 minute video was solid menu florping. I rank that one grade below cleaning midnight cat mistakes off the floor after I found them by stepping in it.
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Post by zedtsayid on Aug 19, 2015 15:35:13 GMT
Well Sniffles I'm sorry you are menuphobic and a lot of the better mods do seem to come with menus as part of their system. Cybersquirt is right about needing to read the mod discriptions and also going to refered web pages such as the HUGE web page for "Time of Sand" I'm fine with menus although some don't always explain all the options available but I just ignore them or shout out to the author for an explination if needed.
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Post by Sniffles on Aug 19, 2015 22:51:42 GMT
Skyrim trained us both to LOATHE MENUS! The developers did it deliberately! Try to follow this: We go out and collect ingredients. We're chronic flower pickers anyway. Then after we have several tons of bits and pieces of the local flora and fauna saved up, usually threatening to crash the game when we open the container, we make potions. Then we make more portions using those potions, and we collect more junk to supplement enchanting and then we use the potion potions to make equipment to make even better potions so we can eventually make the ultimate spiffy best enchanting gear so we can make the ultimate spiffy best enchanted equipment.
The above usually involves about 4 to 8 hours of solid menu fussing, a culmination of several hundred hours of ingredient collecting. Follow so far?
So enter the royal developer enema. You go to the menu during combat, time freezes. Cool. Fine. EXCEPT when making potions, enchanting, or improving equipment and armor! During that period of time the clock keeps right on running - turning every stint at the potion or enchanting table or at the armor bench or weapon grinder into a mad dash.
Mad dash: Remove everything on the PC, just in case. Don the proper set of improving attire for the job at hand, make several practice runs as you will never have even 1 minute to do the job. All set and ready, drink a potion. Lose 5 seconds as the animation runs, as fast as you possibly can, execute as many operations as possible before the timer runs out. You probably won't know the time has even ran out because you are too busy fussing with the menu. Just guess. Those potions only cost about 2 or 3 game play hours each to make. Next, move on the the next work station, remove all the old gear and don the gear for that work station and repeat.
After Squishy has spent a few minutes or a half hour at the enchanting table saving games and endlessly repeating an operation over and over and over and over - if a game developer was by some chance to stroll into the room he would get a .308 between the eyes.
Go ahead and try it. Chug that near priceless potion, open the enchanting menu, select the correct item from the list, go to the enchantment window and scroll down to the correct item then go to the soul gems menu and select the correct soul gem, enchant and so on. You have usually 30 seconds. Try to do more than 2. 3. 4. 6.
I'm looking at a pile of 6 mice over on a table that Munchy tested in order to find the perfect mouse for menu zoofing. This is the reason we have 3 mice hooked to the comp. Now PUHLEEZE explain how a new spiffy zoofy plonky colored GUI menu system is somehow helping out with the developer planned big FU leaving that damned clock running during those sessions??? Tell me how that new menu is going to help keep her bloood pressure lower than the fuel feed on the space shuttle and not just serve as a reminder of how bad the developers gave the game players the royal reaming???
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Post by zedtsayid on Aug 19, 2015 23:37:49 GMT
Well Sniffles I won't quote you but ya I've not made a potion or used one to enchant in over a year or more. I'm just going to use what skills I got and screww a 20 sec timer on a set not one but a SET of armor. It is rediculass at best. ahhhhhh Maybe one of our smarty modders will accept that as a challenge to save us.
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Post by Cybersquirt on Aug 20, 2015 4:30:23 GMT
Speaking of menus, it's why I like SkyUI (4.01): reasonably sized print. I don't know how much goop 5.0 added but lots of people were complaining, which is why I stopped the update in it's tracks - and they don't have the old version (4.01) available on the Nexus anymore. I like being able to view my ingredients in 10-15 clicks instead of 300. And there are a bunch of config options like turning off color (and making default text size even smaller). Admittedly, it is a bit of a change.. but the only altered function I noticed was when you're 'in' a bookshelf - they munged the ability to read the book before placing it on the shelf. But it also adds an icon displaying that potion timer. Using those enchanting/crafting potions as I do, that was a nifty bonus. And yes, you could easily cut out legit parts with Scalpel, that's why you make a backup and keep it. It cleaned my save right up and, while not as 'easy' as savetool, it's got prompts to help you along (and all that info at the Nexus).
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Post by Bard Skye on Aug 20, 2015 10:20:27 GMT
Never been a big menu fan myself. I've always preferred having hotkeys programmed up to instantly access my most used functions and direct keyboard access to the inventory, etc. That being said, I've always found that moving / fighting with keyboard and mouse to be quite awkward, so I run a game controller.
Before Skyrim came along, I'd use an interface program like Joy2key to set up a hybrid controller / keyboard system. With Skyrim, it's either / or. Mutually exclusive.
Now that would be a great mod: something to override the toggle and allow both input systems simultaneously.
Back to the original subject, by not running SkyeUI, you cut yourself off from a lot of great mods that rely on the MCM. Personally, I don't find it a problem as I tend to "set it and forget it." I'm rarely in the MCM unless I'm trying to track down a problem.
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Post by zedtsayid on Aug 20, 2015 18:50:07 GMT
Lulz Bard Skye "Back to the original subject, we are so far off the original post as you are free to do anything you feel like.
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Post by Cybersquirt on Aug 21, 2015 21:39:57 GMT
Was there an original subject? Ah yes, zed's back and he's a modding ho. I think this thread is progressing along nicely.
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Post by zedtsayid on Aug 27, 2015 18:04:54 GMT
Well here is an update. I'm getting CTD's randomly in the game three times on cell changes and an equal amount just anytime. Once I believe it was the f****ing I-tunes updater but the others I'm unsure of. I am running head tracking with Genesis. Now Sands of Time will conflict with headtracking but the Nexus page for Genesis says it is compatible with all mods. Yes thats a general statement that can't really be true but I am sure they tested it with most of the major mods. I'm going to take Genesis out as they say it can safely be disabled from your game and see if thats the issue and the last part is true too. I'm at level 20 with this profile and have not really noticed more spawns till the last 2 levels. There were more draugr in the Shrouded tomb in Ivarstead which I just did. I use alternate start to get more fun out of the game and it is more resonable way to stsrt I find.
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