To Emma

[reacher]

Finall got the I love you gelis really romantic on horseback between whiterun and rosiksted raining just started fighting a dragon when I got the unforgettable lines I need to talk to you have you got a minute and you can't say hang on a minute till we kill this thing and the sun comes out it as you say just happens no on your knee to say I love you kill the bl**dy dragon

[Emma]

I don't know why it disappears, it shouldn't do so. You are still not using the bard mod anymore?

You only "need" the journal entry if you want to find out where Vilja is, as it toggles the questmarker over her head. It must be a mod doing this, because no-one else has ever reported this problem.

[ulison]

Ok I uninstalled the game and installed it back ,go start every thing over again ,but go play not to finish the main story but only to do so much I can to same with vilja , for me she is more important then the main game line . I hope this go works better , BTW loaded only the Noble Clothing And Hunter Armour ,Loaded nothing the change the game for the moment ,but have question Vilja hate the thieves guild < So is it safe to install that new mod where you can destroy the thieves guild later or go it corrupt the game again ,will not lose this new game need it go be to much work to be back on the level we 2 where before I got the problems .

[reacher]

I was wondering if any of you out there knew of a mod for horses that worked the same way as Vilja's just a common or garden one not some metal armored thing that is on fire one that comes when you call not following you everywhere when you fast travel. Vilja's is so convenient only arrives when she blows the horn then disappears and only comes back on the next horn blast

[rollerpig]

"Convenient horses" mod is really solid,and I do not think I have ever encountered a problem directly due to the mod, in regards to compatability with Vilja.

CH mod has 2 different ways to call you're horse.

You "whistle" and you're horse comes running or it has the "horn" that Vilja uses that will summon you're horse (not a modded horse).

It has tons of customization regarding you and you're followers horse.If they follow you or not,how far is there following distance...aggressive or passive during combat etc.etc.etc.

It is available in the workshop and onNexus.Just make sure you get the correct version for what you have installed (dawngaurd,dragonborne).

[reacher]

Cheers rollerpig I will give it a try as long as the horse is just a horse and not one of the flaming metal things I can just see me riding alongside Vilja on one of those I hate to think what her reply would be probably I am going to the nearest inn for a drink talk later

[ulison]

Like I told a time ago I restarted a new game ,this time with Vilja from the begin loaded ,got the sadri's sujamma bug now ,before not I loaded then vilja I long time after I did that quest so maybe the nexus person have right , about the conflict between that quest and vilja ,but no problem for me vilja is more important then this little quest . Every thing looks working right to today ( got still full Vilja quest line in quest list ) ,but I did today the white Phial quest in Windhelm and saw after I finished the 2 parts ,the vilja quest line from vilja changed ( ( When you ask where heading a map marker will show up on your map ) stay there only in now ) ,so I loaded the safe file from for I started the quest and did it again after part 1 every thing is still there ,but when you start part 2 ( repairing the phial ) it change this time only the done parts are there no more in the quest line ( only stay there now ( When you ask where heading a map marker will show up on your map ) and also ( you will be able to track vilja by looking for her marker on the map ) so strange the donkey quest changed not . so this quest have also a conflict some way when you start the second part. I hope the vilja quest line go change no more or I restarted everything for nothing . or maybe load the game from before that quest and never do it maybe that's best ,what you think ?

[ulison]

Saw that bring a dwarven artefact to Calcelmo quest also no more stay in me quest screen and I never finished it so I think its that phial quest bug some other quests like vilja and the calcelmo ,I loaded a safe game from before I did the phial quests and go skip that one

[rollerpig]

Ulison are you sure you are not using some type of quest tracker mod? or even a simple map marker mod?

None of those problems sound like they have anything to do with Vilja. It is just not how mods work and Vilja has no connection to those other quests at all, and no dependencies on them either.

There is a known bug with the "white phial" quest, but it is only after completing the quest and you get the reward that there are any problems and these pertain to a permanent reward you get from completion of that quest.

please,please go through all you're mods and triple check.

PS.

Vilja also has an option in the dialogue section of "traveling together".In this section you can tell Vilja that you have already completed some of her quests. Vilja will take you to her freind in the Bannered Mare that will ask you what quests you have already completed. So, you will never have to replay any of Vilja's quests if you restart a game or have problems and need to return to a previous save.

[ulison]

I use Smakit house markers plus , you think it bug me ? but I used it so long and before I got no problems , I go delete it we will see ,but still go not try the white phial quests again ,I love vilja to much to take the risk she go be corrupt . You need to see how she interact with the four NPCs that are in me house ( hall of dragonborn ) the clean ,sing to getter and lots more stuff don't know how emma and her team did it but its wonderfull .

[ulison]

I have a question for Lady Emma and her team.
I use Hall of Dragonborn as me house in whiterun ,there are four NPCs in it ,a cook lady , a maid bard lady ,a housekeeper lady and in the cellar a smith lady , I can ask the cook to make food ,maid bard to play songs ,the keeper sell or buy stuff also on smith in cellar . the four NPCs walk only to go sleep in the cellar ,there are 5 beds for them .Only the maid bard walk some time to get wood out cellar for the fire . This is the normal way in this house , and worked like this with Vilja 1_4_1 .
The fun thing is from the day I Upgraded to Vilja 1_5_0 some things changed slowly more and more ,I go try to tell it with me bad English in the best way.
First it started with vilja to go talk to them about her clothing its fun , after some time playing more and we come home she walk to the housekeeper lady and start to sing a duet with her it was very nice , later I saw her complain about dirt on the floor and she cleaned it to getter with the cook lady ,later i saw its happens with the other NPCs .
Now you go think I am crazy but this happens really don't know if its normal ,the smith lady that normal comes never out the cellar come upstairs shat with Vilja some times ,the housekeeper lady stay up from her chair to come do the same while before she did it only to go sleep ,the talk about everything ,like vilja do when we walk while we hunting .And now the most crazy part ,I came with Vilja back in whiterun after we did a quest and when we where on the marked place there the cook lady walked out us house to Vilja to chat with her , normal she never go out the house ,its fun .
The question on You Lady Emma and your team is it putted in the game from you and normal or need I to be worried about something that go wrong in me game . BTW I love the Vilja you and your team created she is so wonderful and a nice lady , I love her voice when she chat .

[wotan]

Emma added a lot of new dialogue for Vilja. She now interacts with NPCs using the standard voice set. This also applies to followers and modded characters using these voice sets.
I've seen her sing duets with Lydia while we're out on adventure. Because I'm seldom staying in one place long I haven't seen much of interaction with other NPCs, though - but that's in my game.

From everything you said and from the changelog for 1.5 I would say that your game is working perfectly, just the way its meant to.

[rollerpig]

Ullison,the problem with a major mod like the dragon hall mod is that it changes the environment totally.This means that NPC's might walk into walls or have problems moving about the hall if it has changed drastically.

Also how do you save y're games?

It sounds like as you playu you get more and more problems which would lead me to believe that you keep saving the game over old save files.

DO NOT DO THIS!!!!!

Always save youre game to a new file.The more you overwrite previous files the more corrupt they get wityh each additional save.I have over 3000 saves of skyrim and
I do not think it is even close to 1 gig.I have a 1 terra byte HD so....you see whatI mean?

It is just not worth it to save a little space.

When you overwrite files sometimes small pieces of information can get mixed into the new save(sort of)so when you re-load,you're reloading an already corrupt game.Then you do it 100 more times and things get really,really wacky.

Also.

To answer youre question, any mod can have conflicts even if they don't seem like they would.It all depends on how it is made,triggers used,how skyrim gets modified,what gets modified etc.etc.etc.

I use like 30 mods but all they are are clothing,some armors and a few gameplay changes(Frostfall and R&D) none of these change the game world at all/Those I find are the most troublesome.

[ulison]

I save always a new 1 but always in the hall off dragonborn , to be sure I loaded the new breezehome fully upgradable and transport me stuff to there go make it me home and then delete the hall of dragonborn will not take the risk to lose me sweet Vilja and in breezehome she can chat with Lydia also. need I to do something to be sure all from hall of dragonborn is away ?

[ulison]

I use only clothing ,armour , crafting ,that home from emma for that spinningwiel ,destroy the thieves guild , now I go use that breezehome and delete hall of dragonborn .
Oh I use the 3 unofficial patches , skyrim,dawnguard and dragonborn also .