Vilja in Skyrim and a hug problem (blocked Vilja)

[obliviotter]

Hi there. So I tested a bit Vilja new update and, even more, her hugs that became infamous for being deadly or made her frozen (in Skyrim, it should be normal).

Here is the post I made on Nexus:

Confirmation for the "hug-that-make-Vilja-Unresponsive". Impossible to talk to her and she don't react to the PC unsheathing his weapon but still follow him. Fast traveling or changing cell is enough to unlock her. (summoning her also work). You also can shot an arrow in her knee (or punching her, or blasting her... And so on...)

Seem like she doesn't really quit the animation and stay blocked in it...

I've a female-Aldmer-Lady Vampire, game up to date (or Steam doesn't work well) and Vilja is also up to date.
I've Skse and a plugin for it (an uncapper).

There is my load order (lot are softly customized mods but there no major changes, just adaptations in french. The Vila fr isn't checked, error of mine when I did the cut on the picture):

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I'll also post that in a certain forum... Hope it can help, even a bit...

Edit: Made some new tests. Paarthurnax Dilemma doesn't change anything... The problem is that, even without any mods (nor dawnguard) it don't work better...

Ceri is still usable when Vilja is frozen after hugging.

So far she didn't died nor myself when hugged by her.

I used Vilja's function, don't have "hidden mods" so you can see all I have (just the uncapper that isn't really a mod...)

So never tried to hug by something other than the dialog of Vilja.

She's unresponsive to activation, still follow, her head keep tracking but she doesn't seem to speak anymore. I'll try her "chatterbox mode" for confirmation but, for now, she just react to getting hit/summoned/changing cell.


The reset-spell work well.
She stay frozen some seconds after hugging (no head-tracking), then she partially work again (no activations).

The summoning seem to functioning only after changing cell, so it doesn't unlock her after using it (too bad...).
She doesn't speak anymore when in "blocked-state".

I'll try what you and Lycanthrops say. But later, it's a bit late and I need to relax then sleep, not my hours of Vilja's playing.

Emma's post:

Maybe this bug isn't a conflict but another effect similar to the hug-kill one?

In that case uninstall/reinstall Vilja seems to take care of the problem.(You can now restore the storyline to approx were you were before by talking to Vilja about Travel Together->Serious matters->We have already done some of your quests and then go and talk to Beata in the Bannered mare., so uninstall/reinstall isn't a real disaster).

Lycantrops post:

The general issue with the hug animation is not due to other mods, at least not directly. It is due to corrupt savegames.

In my game it was Vilja who died after the hug. I have never run any vampire mod. I'm only using Dawnguard. And the pa_HugA animation is a vanilla game animation. This issue happened on both my computers with different contents of the Data folder.

I removed my Skyrim folder completely and substituted it with a fresh download of Skyrim and then installed Vilja's mod. With my last save Vilja died immediately after the hug.

I made a cleansave, installed Vilja's mod again and then progressed to the romance with Vilja's quest maintenance function. Then Vilja gave me a perfect hug which only left good feelings (and no body on the floor).

So if there is any problem with the hug, either fasttravel or install the mod anew, do to the thieves quest and then set Vilja's quest step for step to the end (Traveling together\We need to discuss some serious matters.\We have already done (some) of your quests) when she will be able to hug you again.

Edit: Added informations and correction on my load order. (I added too much "checked" mod than I really have... And ViljaFr was on of it)

Edit: For even more informations...

Edit: Added news informations and Lycanthrops post.

Edit: Added Emma's post

[Emma]

Obliviotter, thank you for the feedback and for helping us trying to sort this out, it is much appreciated


Go and get your sleep now, I'm glad you don't have the hug-kill-bug, that might cause nightmares!

[obliviotter]

I didn't slept but the bug isn't there anymore thanks to you. Here's my Nexus post, hoping it would help those who have the freezing or deathly-hug bug:

Hello again. Ok, I didn't slept, that's bad, I know... But I resolved my problem of freezing hugs !
Emma's support worked just fine, you just have to uninstall than reinstall the mod and it work like a charm.

Here's Emma advice that worked for me:

Maybe this bug isn't a conflict but another effect similar to the hug-kill one?

In that case uninstall/reinstall Vilja seems to take care of the problem.(You can now restore the storyline to approx were you were before by talking to Vilja about Travel Together->Serious matters->We have already done some of your quests and then go and talk to Beata in the Bannered mare., so uninstall/reinstall isn't a real disaster).

My best guess is that downloading from an already existing save without desinstalling broke the mod down. So it's better to updating it from zero. If it wasn't done reinstalling it correct hugs' bugs.
That's all, thanks you so much Emma.

Here a step by step correction of the bug (it's longer to write than to do):

I tested it a bit.
So, here how you do:
-Go to the game.
-Strip Vilja naked of EVERYTHING she have (make sure you're not in the bannered mare).
-Save (on another save, no quick nor auto-save).
-Quit the game (fast, or she'll talk to you).
-Uncheck Vilja.
-Go to the game and save again (on a new clean save, it's better)
-Quit the game and check Vilja again.
-Launch the game.
-Go to the bannered mare, speak to Vilja, do a bit of her quest and give her back what she want.
-Give her back the stuff you stripped.
-Tell her about "traveling together".
-Tell her about "serious matter".
-Tell her about "quests".
-Go in the kitchen of the bannered mare and speak to her friend (she'll pop-up safely, even if you're already in the kitchen).
-Make your Vilja how you left her again (start by the background, then exactly in the order you did when you first played, or you'll miss some bit easily).
-Speak with her a bit.
-Save (a clean save should be fine, you can also delete the others you did)
-Hug her and enjoy ! *strictly personal advice*
-Give kudos and endorsements to Emma and Vilja's team if it isn't done. *strictly personal advice*

Edit: Quotes are better like that
Edit: Corrections before going to sleep. I'm really tired...
Edit: step by step walthrought of "how I did get hugged without dead nor freezing", wrote by a Vilja's addict.

[mala]

This works, but just to forewarn folks, the faction/affection that was built up is lost. Hopefully that returns after a few days but after the reset she's not going to like you much.

This seems to be a bug related to skill gain and at some point I noticed her health went to 1000+. She was killing dragons with one hit. Isn't there a console command you can use to just reset her strength (or health if that is what controls it) to something more normal? That way maybe you can avoid loosing the character story the player has built and perhaps avoid the steps above.