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Post by jefferson on Jan 24, 2014 9:27:03 GMT
Hi guys,
I'm having a blast with this mod and I just started. I'm having a little problem though with Vilja running around naked. I've restarted, uninstalled other mods, ran through dialogues, but she strips naked and won't put anything back on. She looks great naked but I'm the modest type and clothes have their place in society. Is this a mod conflict, a file out of load order, or just my incompetence? I'm new to all this modding stuff and short on IQ points. Normally I would just give up on a mod where I can't manage the bugs but she's got me all wrapped up in the game again and I really like having her around. Any tips on where to hunt for problems?
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Post by Seyheb on Jan 24, 2014 10:43:16 GMT
Hi jefferson. Anything you have given her as clothes rather than armour must have a zero armour rating. A surprising amount of clothing does have some armour rating and that caught me out a couple of times when I first started using the wardrobe system. The wardrobe system has been working well for me since then, so I can't think of anything else at the moment as long as you are following the instructions correctly.
You can give her one item of armour and one item of zero-rated clothing for each body slot that you want her to use. Do that for the Wilderness and then you can fine-tune when she will swap her clothes for the armour, e.g when in dangerous areas or when going into combat, etc. If you give her zero-rated clothes for each of her other wardrobes but without also assigning any armour to these wardrobes, she should wear the clothes normally, but will still put on the same armour you gave her for the Wilderness wardrobe when you ask her to or when she is attacked, even when in town. That's fairly simplistic but is a basis of getting it to work and should get you up and running. It's basically how I have my Vilja's wardrobe set up. The fine-tuning options e.g. "when to wear armour" are important too.
You can also give her jewelry for each wardrobe in slots not otherwise occupied by clothing, and in my case she has a different set of jewelry for her home, urban and elegant wardrobes.
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Post by jefferson on Jan 24, 2014 13:26:04 GMT
Thanks for the reply Seyheb! But this is some sort of malfunction. I only gave her one set of armor and no amount of arranging will convince her to put clothes or armor back on. She did this right from the start before I had given her any armor.
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Post by mewgull on Jan 24, 2014 14:33:34 GMT
Hm, sounds similar to the situation I described today in "Those WOW moments".
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Post by Dova on Jan 24, 2014 14:54:42 GMT
You mean this problem exists when you met Vilja in the Bannered Mare? Is she already nude at the inn? or only after started following you around? Have you tried telling her she can wear whatever she wants (default setting to disregard your wardrobe preferences)? Also try dismissing her and recruit her again after waiting maybe around 3 ingame days.
EDIT: mewgull as for the hottub situation, it seems the hottub script has termnated prematurely when Vilja starts her important conversation (which of course has another script). This happens because there could only be one script acting on a actor at a time. Didn't know Riverside Shack has a hottub outside, at first I thought you were talking about Highview Cottage.
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Post by mewgull on Jan 24, 2014 16:40:26 GMT
I have never been too much into scripting, mainly modded some houses and the like to adapt them better to my liking, but your observation about 2 scripts not being able to run at the same time sounds reasonable. I just replayed that situation on the shore near the Brinehammer and everything went smoothly.
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Post by Seyheb on Jan 24, 2014 16:46:19 GMT
Did this begin only after the hot tub incident? You could try restarting with a saved game dated from before the hot tub if you haven't already done so.
If all else fails, you can try re-setting her wardrobe form-lists by running "A fix for Chargia". You'll find it at the top of the list of old files on the Vilja Nexus site. It includes instructions on how to use it which you should follow carefully.
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Post by jefferson on Jan 24, 2014 23:10:20 GMT
This happened as soon as I gave her armor to wear. She jumped to buff and refused to wear anything. I think I've found the problem though. One of the follower mods might have been messing with her. It was either multiple followers, or the one that tweeks followers to a female walk I think. (really didn't want to give up that multi-follower)...anyway, she wears clothes now. She still strips when we enter a house and I have to tell her to put on clothes but I guess a pretty girl running around nekkid isn't the worst problem in the world...lol
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Post by Dova on Jan 24, 2014 23:24:40 GMT
So which mod did you disable to get Vilja wearing clothes, the followers mod or the feminine walking mod? And which multiple followers mod are you using?
Does she wear anything again if you initiate conversation with her in the house? If not, does her home outfit display properly on other followers?
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Post by jefferson on Jan 24, 2014 23:50:48 GMT
I disabled several at a time so I'm not sure which was the culprit. I disabled followers keep up, and multiple followers lite...maybe another but they were activated through Steam and once unsubscribed don't show up on any lists. If I tell her she doesn't have to wear armor she puts her dress back on. Oh, also.."ask followers skills" and "female NPC animation micro-fix". These were enabled long before I found the joys of Nexus.
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Post by Dova on Jan 25, 2014 0:00:47 GMT
Maybe you should test them one at a time?
Not the best advice, but I would suggest you to switch to some other followers mod that has the features you are currently enjoying and compatible with Vilja (as long as you don't use the mod follower commands on Vilja, which won't be necessary as Vilja already has all the full-fledged features), such as amazing follower tweaks (AFT), ultimate follower overhaul (UFO, which I use). Either of these mods should combine the needs of the mods you mentioned. As for followers keeping up with you, I recommend convenient horses, which included dynamic riding speed for followers to catch up with you.
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Post by Seyheb on Jan 25, 2014 0:30:09 GMT
I doubt if a walk or multiple followers mod would interfere with her, but Skyrim sorcery can occur at any time of course!
If you want to see if you can keep a 'suspect' mod, you could try placing it above any Vilja mods, if it wasn't placed above Vilja already. If you have more than one, reintroduce them one by one and make a full save before you try each one and then test.
I'm glad that you have made some progress with this. However I know you said in your first post the problems started before you gave her any armour, but in a later post in this thread you said it happened as soon as you gave her armour to wear. Did you looked to see if all her clothes have a zero armour rating? Do check it if you haven't done so already. As mentioned before, If you set armour for her to wear as part of her wardrobe and some of her clothing in reality had some armour rating, then she would stop wearing those 'clothes' when armour wasn't actually needed, as her clothes must have zero armour rating. Armour settings will work across all wardrobes as mentioned in my first reply, so you only have to give her one set of armour in the wardrobe system for this to be the case. Even if it isn't the solution, it's worth looking into in any case.
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Post by jefferson on Jan 25, 2014 9:03:43 GMT
Maybe that has something to do with it. I didn't "set her wardrobe" but just handed her over armor like you would a regular follower. I haven't messed with that interface much because its not really intuitive on how its all supposed to work. I just handed over the armor and hoped she knew what to do with it. I'm still assuming 'uninstalled mods' though because out of the blue, after uninstalling mods, she decided to put clothes back on, and except for a few minutes of nudity when entering a safe place, she's going back and forth between her dress and armor just fine. (only her green dress though. I've never seen her put on any of her other clothes) When I'm through all her quests I'll mess with it some more, but I'm leery about giving her any more outfits until I understand the system. From my reading it sounds like she calls the shots, to some extent, on what she's going to wear and the problems come up in the battle for control..lol
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Post by Seyheb on Jan 25, 2014 9:48:23 GMT
Maybe that has something to do with it. I didn't "set her wardrobe" but just handed her over armor like you would a regular follower. I haven't messed with that interface much because its not really intuitive on how its all supposed to work. I just handed over the armor and hoped she knew what to do with it. I'm still assuming 'uninstalled mods' though because out of the blue, after uninstalling mods, she decided to put clothes back on, and except for a few minutes of nudity when entering a safe place, she's going back and forth between her dress and armor just fine. (only her green dress though. I've never seen her put on any of her other clothes) When I'm through all her quests I'll mess with it some more, but I'm leery about giving her any more outfits until I understand the system. From my reading it sounds like she calls the shots, to some extent, on what she's going to wear and the problems come up in the battle for control..lol That might explain some things. You must click on the armour and/or clothing to mark it with an arrow to allocate it to an available body slot for the wardrobe system to work properly, otherwise you aren't really using it. I agree it does look rather unintuitive at first look, but it is worth practising a little to get used to it. Once you do so, you'll find it to be an excellent system. You call the shots at first by saying when she should change between armour and clothing and what she should wear in particular areas, and then if it is set to auto-switch she will do the rest. If you have any questions about setting up what you want, I'll try to help where I can. P.S. I just read your original post and noticed that you didn't mention the wardrobe system. I just assumed that was what you were talking about when I made my first reply; my apologies. I guess I must figuratively clean my reading comprehension glasses! However, setting up the wardrobe system properly may help in any case.
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