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Post by Sniffles on Apr 3, 2023 6:32:13 GMT
I'm getting Skyrim anniversary edition. What are the mandatory patches I must install? The package is a remake of the 2018 edition redone in 2022 so I expect it will be pretty complete and bug free.
My existing Skyrim is a trim and svelte 34.7 GB. Or less politely put, a fat bloated roadkill pig on my SSD. I can start a game in it, finding my PC stuck in the house with a snarling nasty Viconia following me about but cannot save any games or exit the house without it crashing.
NEXT, I'd like to use my high level saved game character but the saved game is pretty polluted with mods and foofs and fixes and feces. So please give me some assurance the saved games will plug in and work like expensive watches with a lifetime guarantee. Otherwise I will have to revert to my archived saves of 2013-4 and the slightly nauseating repetition of the bottle hunt and Halvdan demolition.
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Post by Aatrnasyn on Apr 3, 2023 8:36:24 GMT
Mandatory patches? I think mainly that would be USSEP and skse64 (https://skse.silverlock.org/), and, IMNSHO, (not a patch) MO2. I'd also recommend PO3 tweaks (51073), Papyrus tweaks (77779), and Engine fixes - Parts 1 & 2 (17230). I have a mostly stable setup with 409 mods (77GB), so perhaps the main thing is not to go too crazy with the downloads.
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Post by Sniffles on Apr 3, 2023 12:25:48 GMT
THANKS! USSEP, SKSE, check. The papyrus stuff, do I really need it if I'm mostly just going vanilla?
I don't want to go crazy on the mods. In fact very few. Mostly complimenting Vilja. What I want most out of the game is Squishy's look alike character and the scenery which is so reminiscent of the Tetons. Probably most of the modding I want to do involves reforestation to fit my mental image of those fabulous mountains with complimentary forests.
My present Skyrim got junked out from installed new patches that weren't supposed to be installed on the vanilla first version. Over wrote some crucial files. A pitfall I want to avoid.
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Post by jgf on Apr 5, 2023 11:06:48 GMT
.... Over wrote some crucial files. A pitfall I want to avoid. With a Bethesda game?! Lots of luck. Safest course is having a complete backup of the game; if you install something disastrous just delete the game, copy your backup and keep going.
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Post by Aatrnasyn on Apr 5, 2023 12:53:36 GMT
I can't emphasize enough how helpful it is to use Mod Organizer 2. All installed mods get stored in their own separate directory, only getting combined in a virtual file system on game start. No files get overwritten. Easy to alter the load order by changing the order of the mods inside MO2.
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Post by Sniffles on Apr 5, 2023 13:39:58 GMT
.... Over wrote some crucial files. A pitfall I want to avoid. With a Bethesda game?! Lots of luck. Safest course is having a complete backup of the game; if you install something disastrous just delete the game, copy your backup and keep going. Wait for it......................................
I didn't have just Skyrim backed up. I run a separate disk drive, D:, for all my programs. I had it faithfully all backed up and the back up tested every month on a new Western Digital Black HD. A little over 1 year old the drive died. But I made certain it was under warrantee. So I took it the the WD service center and told them I must recover the data on it. A week later they sent me a new HD. I asked where my old one was. They destroy all defective products. Over 800 GB of programs, photos, movies, and memorabilia gone.
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Post by Sniffles on Apr 5, 2023 13:41:44 GMT
I can't emphasize enough how helpful it is to use Mod Organizer 2. All installed mods get stored in their own separate directory, only getting combined in a virtual file system on game start. No files get overwritten. Easy to alter the load order by changing the order of the mods inside MO2. I got fed up with Mod Organizer for some reason and have been using Nexus Mod Manager. Now would some kind people give a pros and cons comparison of the two?
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Post by Aatrnasyn on Apr 6, 2023 0:04:45 GMT
https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/nq18vk/nmm_vs_mo2/
MO2 uses a Virtual File System so it doesn't touch your data directory NMM has one big problem - you know know you install a mod and it asks if you want to override a file or not? That's caused by two mods wanting to change the same file. You have to make that decision on the spot, usually when you're not prepared to make it. If you change your mind you have to uninstall everything and start from scratch. And imagine you now want to remove one mod - did that mod override a file? If it did that file will now be gone, and part of your game will be bugged because of it. Risk it or start from scratch
That's a class of problems that does not happen on MO2. Or Vortex for that matter. Load order adjustments without reinstall and clean uninstalls are built in thanks to their design.
NMM actually overwrites files and places them directly into the skyrim folder.
NMM is not current or supported, should we assume you are referring to Vortex when you say NMM?
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Post by Sniffles on Apr 6, 2023 7:09:46 GMT
So it was probably NMM that messed up Skyrim in the first place. Thanks for the heads up. I just accidentally olver wrote my Thunderbird profile folder. So I had started a new profile and gmail retrieved all my emails, but insistd on putting them in it's choice of folders. So I dug up an old profile missing the last 6 months of email then am busy deleting the 18,000+ email duplicates before I import the new emails into the old profile.
And on of my cheap SSDs is dying so I'm losing one of the back up drives. Meanwhile, the Asian brown cloud is so thick you can tell the sun is shining by doesn't cast shadows. I'm boring myself to sleep.
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Post by moksha8088 on Apr 6, 2023 20:43:42 GMT
Most mods requiring the new SKSE64 have been updated to the latest AE version by now.
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Post by Sniffles on Apr 7, 2023 3:24:24 GMT
This game up up up updating is like buying a new car. After you sign the paperwork you get asked, "Do you want tires to go with it? And how about a windshield? And getting a transmission is a popular favorite. And a steering wheel comes in really handy, pardon the pun. Oh yes, what about seats?. But we included the paint job for free! Looks bad to have rusty cars all over the show room."
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Post by jgf on Apr 7, 2023 4:45:59 GMT
Remember when you could download a demo of a game, or get a dozen on a CD in a gaming magazine? You could play one level, or play for 30 minutes, etc., and if you liked it could then go buy the full game. It seems today many devs are trying to sell us, at full price, a demo, then nickel and dime us to death with "DLC" to flesh that out to a full game.
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Post by Sniffles on Apr 8, 2023 1:23:25 GMT
Remember when you could download a demo of a game, or get a dozen on a CD in a gaming magazine? You could play one level, or play for 30 minutes, etc., and if you liked it could then go buy the full game. It seems today many devs are trying to sell us, at full price, a demo, then nickel and dime us to death with "DLC" to flesh that out to a full game. The way you said that turned on a light bulb. at first DLCs were incomplete bits and pieces that weren't ready at publishing date. Often the DLCs were both add ons and bug fixes. Then they slowly turned to the standard marketing ploy of accessory selling. The next progression being as you said, the initial game can become what is called a 'loss leader'. A free or almost free introduction and the real money made in selling the additional real deal.
This is an intrinsic part of my job as facilitator. Sadly the business is health and medical treatment. Numerous hospitals almost give away the first consultation, then, quite often, the facilities prescribe diagnostics and procedures depending on how fat the patient's wallet is or insurance carrier(s).
My most recent victim of this system is a person who had a certain complaint and a diagnostic was performed without telling the patient what the diagnostic was. The patient was handed a gigantic bill for that diagnostic which -> enter the sales pitch, offered up the DLCs. Other unrelated conditions that would have made huge amounts of profits. The patient contacted their consulate who put a facilitator on the case, me. I contacted various medical practitioners on my list who quickly determined the sales pitches and denoted what was purely profit making ventures.
Chickenshit low life medical community placing money before a patient's health.
Which explains why I'm trapped in this foreign country getting tossed juicy bones every time I get homesick. Capable facilitators are worth their weight in cut and polished diamonds. -> "X doesn't need Y the DLCs. Their basic game just needs a patch. References from expert programmers cited."
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Post by Aatrnasyn on Apr 8, 2023 11:24:53 GMT
Have the hospitals there started to use the term "customers" instead of "patients", like some here have done?
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Post by dogonporch on Apr 8, 2023 18:53:34 GMT
Remember when you could download a demo of a game, or get a dozen on a CD in a gaming magazine? You could play one level, or play for 30 minutes, etc., and if you liked it could then go buy the full game. It seems today many devs are trying to sell us, at full price, a demo, then nickel and dime us to death with "DLC" to flesh that out to a full game.
Luckily on Steam, when a game goes on sale so do the DLC packs, so they're usually very cheap to pick-up. Pennies in some cases.
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