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Post by dualm on Jan 25, 2014 2:41:10 GMT
The clothing I choose for the various wardrobes has no armor rating although some is enchanted. She wears the enchanted jewelry without pause. She will wear vanilla clothing but not the wardrobe added by other mods, however, she has worn it before. The selection for how she is to wear stuff is a bit confusing, for example. Combat? Non-Combat? Which text should appear if it is not to be worn during combat? I think a check-box method of selection would have made more sense but I'm not a programmer and don't know what's involved in allowing for that. At the moment the text "Non-Combat is visible if I want her to wear it during combat because I have clicked the button "Combat?" when I want her to wear the wardrobe fighting. This is how I selected her "Wilderness wardrobe" and she has no issue changing into it. She will wear the mod-added clothing but won't automatically switch wardrobes for given locations. If I tell her to wear what she wants she'll wear it and comes up with some nasty combinations If my attempted explanation of things here seems confusing it's only because it reflects my comprehension of this problem LOL
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Post by Dova on Jan 25, 2014 3:02:59 GMT
You've mentined she used to wear those mod items before, so when did that stop working? Perhaps when you go back to the older save to avoid the animations problem or later?
The description in configuration messagebox should change when you switch between the options. I don't remember the exact wording, but "Combat" would allow her to put on armor while wearing that wardrobe and "non combat" would not (correct me if I got it backwards, been a while since I saw that messagebox).
Fresh start with the wardrobe system seems like a best idea, a method to do so in game is described as follows (perhaps the exact wording of the dialogues may be a bit off).
1 - talk to Vilja; select "Let's talk about traveling together..." 2 - select "regarding your outfits..." 3 - scroll down (there are many options here, select the one that tells her she can wear whatever she wants, with "(default)" at the end 4 - step 3 should reset her wardrobe behavior; swap out the problematic clothing items in her inventory for some vanilla items (don't empty out her inventory with no clothing or armor, otherwise some items may be stuck in her wardrobe configuration inventory) 5 - dimiss her and wait 1 ingame day just to be safe 6 - recruit her again and give her the items you want on her and set your wardrobe preferences.
See if that works...
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Post by dualm on Jan 25, 2014 3:32:43 GMT
I sort of have her wearing one wardrobe that I want but she's added an item to it that's not on the list and it's is part of her armor layout, so I don't want to remove it from her inventory. I say part of her armor but it had no armor-rating, only enchantment. I hate to travel without her but I'll do as you suggest
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Post by Dova on Jan 25, 2014 4:04:04 GMT
I sort of have her wearing one wardrobe that I want but she's added an item to it that's not on the list and it's is part of her armor layout, so I don't want to remove it from her inventory. I say part of her armor but it had no armor-rating, only enchantment. I hate to travel without her but I'll do as you suggest In addition to her wardrobe, she may also wear jewelry and winter clothing (cloaks and hoods) if you allow her to (this is also the default setting)
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Post by Seyheb on Jan 25, 2014 9:06:37 GMT
“Regarding your outfits…” is also found in Vilja’s main options list when you talk to her.
You don't need to travel without her for a day, just press 'T' and advance the time forward by at least 24 hours.
It is possible that your wardrobe formlists are corrupted. You can re-set them by running the “A fix for Chargia” utility. You will find this at the top of the “old files” list in the downloads list on the Vilja in Skyrim site on the Nexus. Follow the included instructions carefully. However they are short and very straight-forward, as is the procedure itself. Try that if dovahklon's suggestion doesn't work for you.
I agree some of the wardrobe commands can appear a bit confusing on first look, but it’s worth practising a little to get used to them. For example, after using options like “combat?” and ”non-combat?” etc., what you have actually set can be checked by stepping back to the main wardrobe menu and clicking on “status”, then if what you see is not what you want you can go back and select something else. Also, clicking on "status" within an individual wardrobe outfit configuration menu will give you some information on what each command does instead.
Yes, you can allocate jewellery to any suitable vacant body slot in any wardrobe. I have given her different sets for each of her wardrobes. Additional Winter clothing is allocated via the Winter wardrobe option of course.
Once you have things fixed, make frequent full saves if you aren't already doing so, then you can step back to an earlier save if there is a problem. Don't rely on auto or 'quick' saves.
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Post by dualm on Jan 27, 2014 17:45:38 GMT
Well, I give up. I've tried everything that has been suggested and nothing works. She will wear only two wardrobes, one for battle and one out of battle. I have to deny her the things that I don't want her to wear or she simply wears what is most expensive. She absolutely will not change between pre-selected wardrobes which are designated for particular locations, except for the wilderness wardrobe. She will only change when I select "wear whatever you want". I cannot tell her directly to wear any wardrobe, except the wilderness wardrobe, or she just appears nude and complaining about her own selection. I'm about to upgrade my PC, so maybe I'll try again then. As it stands, my PC will endure high settings for game-play but when I go into Vilja's wardrobe selection menu the frame rate drops to less than 10 FPS, while attempting to processing my wardrobe-piece selections
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Post by Dova on Jan 27, 2014 18:57:39 GMT
The lags, imo, is not really about how good your pc is, it's how the game engine handles scripts. Please correct me if I am wrong about this.
On the other hand, do the outfit options work?
I am running out of ideas if Doug's suggestion on "A fix for chargia" doesn't work.
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Post by Seyheb on Jan 27, 2014 21:07:28 GMT
Hmm, I have one more suggestion as a long-shot. If you would like, I'll set down step by step how I set up my Vilja's wardobes. Then you could follow that and it might either help to get you going or confirm there's something wrong. It won't be tomorrow as I have a full day including an evening meeting, but I'm thinking I should set it down for my own records in case I ever have to re-do it myself in the future.
Otherwise, like Dovaklon, I'm also running out of ideas.
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Post by dualm on Jan 27, 2014 22:08:51 GMT
I'm sure I'm setting it up correctly but I'll read your step-by-step if and when you post it. I haven't set up the outfits because I preferred her to wear certain things, in certain scenarios but I may give it a whirl at a later date and see how it works.
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Post by Dova on Jan 27, 2014 22:54:17 GMT
Emma just posted this to troubleshoot another player with wardrobe problems
dualm, maybe you should look into these questions and give us some feedback?
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Post by Sniffles on Jan 28, 2014 2:05:27 GMT
Hmm, I have one more suggestion as a long-shot. If you would like, I'll set down step by step how I set up my Vilja's wardobes. Then you could follow that and it might either help to get you going or confirm there's something wrong. It won't be tomorrow as I have a full day including an evening meeting, but I'm thinking I should set it down for my own records in case I ever have to re-do it myself in the future. Otherwise, like Dovaklon, I'm also running out of ideas. By all means! Would love to read it!
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Post by Seyheb on Jan 29, 2014 15:21:35 GMT
Hmm, I have one more suggestion as a long-shot. If you would like, I'll set down step by step how I set up my Vilja's wardobes. Then you could follow that and it might either help to get you going or confirm there's something wrong. It won't be tomorrow as I have a full day including an evening meeting, but I'm thinking I should set it down for my own records in case I ever have to re-do it myself in the future. Otherwise, like Dovaklon, I'm also running out of ideas. Sorry for the delay. I’ve had a very full couple of days. Anyway, here is how I personally set up my Vilja’s wardrobes. This setup is my choice; you may want something different of course. To allocate items, open a wardrobe and select “contents” and wait for the slow flickering and jumping to finish before doing anything. You can then click on items of armour or clothing to fix them to available slots. You can allocate armour and clothing to the same body slots. Click on each item so that they are marked by an arrow. Incidentally, pass into her inventory everything you intend to include in her wardrobes before you start. All options in the menus with a question mark after them are toggles. I think that may sometimes causes confusion. When e.g. “No Autochange?” is displayed it actually means Autochange is currently in operation. It is only asking you if you want to change back to No Autochange. Sorry if this is obvious! How I set the wardrobes up for my Vilja: 1. I started with the Wilderness wardrobe. I gave her a set of clothes and a set of combat armour, using the same body slots for both. I also added some jewellery in other slots (neck, ears). 2. I tabbed back to the menu and made sure ‘No Autochange?’’ and “Combat?’ were displayed. "Combat?" displayed because I wanted her to only wear her combat armour in combat. 3. Next, I allocated clothes and jewellery only (no armour) to each of the other wardrobes except the Winter one, each time checking to see that No Autochange? And Combat? were displayed. 4. I then went to the Winter wardrobe. I allocated the same clothes here as I did for the Wilderness outfit, but didn’t add the combat armour. I then added a cloak and a wrap for her shoulders and neck. 5. I set ‘When to use Armour’ to ‘In Dangerous Areas’ so she will put on her armour at the entrance to caves, etc. 6. Armour/Clothing combinations were set via the toggles to the following: Clothing is restricted when wearing armour. She will wear winter clothing. She will wear jewellery. She will carry tools and pouches. 7. Finally, I set “good manners” to unequip headgear and shields in appropriate areas. (Ideally, I would like an option to unequip weapons as well if it could be added without too much trouble, something I raised a while back. Emma said at the time she would speak to Amgepo about it. EDIT this has now been added as an automatic function]). As set, she will auto-switch to each wardrobe as she moves between areas. She will also auto-switch to her combat armour, not only when entering danger, but also any time she comes under attack. This is effective even when she is 'told' to wear an outfit. It wasn’t necessary to re-allocate the armour to each wardrobe, doing it the once in the Wilderness wardrobe has covered all of her wardrobes. [EDIT - Note that this works only for when she is set for automatic armour equipping. If you order her directly to equip armour and she doesn't have any in that wardrobe, she will become naked.] Sometimes it takes a short while for things to 'take', so if e.g. you test by ordering her to select a wardrobe, it may not look correct at first. Generally, I have found testing by travelling worked best. This set-up has worked well until now, but I guess I shouldn’t have been complacent, because I have just hit a snag for the first time! I tried to give her a new urban outfit but she went naked instead, so I loaded a saved game made just before the change and have kept her old urban outfit for now. I haven't had time to look at what I might have done wrong, though I'm sure I did the same as with everything else. I also changed her Winter outfit at the same time, which is working without any problems. A couple of weeks ago I also changed her Wilderness outfit, and that is also working without problems. [EDIT: used the Fix for Chargia and re-created the wardrobes as described, and all was fine once again}
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Post by Falion on Jan 29, 2014 15:31:19 GMT
Thanks for the write up Seyheb, it will help me as well Sir!
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Post by Sniffles on Jan 30, 2014 6:18:44 GMT
THANKS MUCHES. Thanks to you, Emma and a techy friend of mine I've got ALL the Vilja bugs worked out. I'm going to start a new thread to explain things.
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Post by dualm on Feb 12, 2014 19:20:53 GMT
I was just popping by and noticed your lengthy instructions for your set-up, seyheb and would like to express my appreciation for the great effort. I have given up on the wardrobe system because I have followed the directions precisely and cannot get her to wear anything but two wardrobes, one for battle and one for when we are outside of wilderness areas,such as cities and settlements. I have periodically gone in, to see if I could select the pieces of clothing and have noticed that there are many options for items that are not even in her inventory. These items are not selected nor were they when they were taken from her so I don't know what the issue is here
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