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Post by loriel on Oct 13, 2010 0:00:57 GMT
Posts from the Morrowind Mod Support forum on the old site:
Posted by: Artemis
Post Posted: 11 Oct 2006 10:43 am Post subject: Julan: Conclusion ? [major spoilers alert!]
I know that there are already general threads on Julan here, but as I'm asking about the 'end' of his quests, I felt it better to begin a new thread, since serious spoilers are involved. Wink
Okay, my little Bosmer ended up being quite smitten with Julan and thus pursued a romance with him Very Happy
Now... she and Julan have just mopped with the floor with old Uncle Dagoth Ur...
Once outside of the citadel they had a conversation, about what happened next, and Cali (my PC) reminded him that he had promised to marry her.
Of course..he got quite evasive, and she finally extracted from him that they were technically, already married.
"Oh"...she thinks.. But since she's still smitten she accepted his apology and his promise to make it up to her etc.
My question is, is this the ending of Julan's quests? Does he ever become Ashkan of his people? And...er...does he ever lose his bashfulness when said NPC strips down and kisses him? Very Happy Twisted Evil
Because, Cali was most curious at his continued hesitance to er...raise the bar in their relationship. I mean. they *are* married after all Very Happy
I have visited Mashti, and also the wise woman of the Ahemussa Camp, I've also spoken with Shani. But, none of those conversations have triggered anything different.
It's not a big deal, I'm just curious because I like to properly complete quest mods. Smile
btw, Thanks for an awesome companion mod!
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Posted by: Kateri
Post Posted: 11 Oct 2006 11:57 am Post subject: Re: Julan: Conclusion ? [major spoilers alert!]
Artemis wrote: I know that there are already general threads on Julan here, but as I'm asking about the 'end' of his quests, I felt it better to begin a new thread, since serious spoilers are involved. Wink
Okay, my little Bosmer ended up being quite smitten with Julan and thus pursued a romance with him Very Happy
Now... she and Julan have just mopped with the floor with old Uncle Dagoth Ur...
Once outside of the citadel they had a conversation, about what happened next, and Cali (my PC) reminded him that he had promised to marry her.
Of course..he got quite evasive, and she finally extracted from him that they were technically, already married.
"Oh"...she thinks.. But since she's still smitten she accepted his apology and his promise to make it up to her etc.
My question is, is this the ending of Julan's quests? Does he ever become Ashkan of his people? And...er...does he ever lose his bashfulness when said NPC strips down and kisses him? Very Happy Twisted Evil
Because, Cali was most curious at his continued hesitance to er...raise the bar in their relationship. I mean. they *are* married after all Very Happy
I have visited Mashti, and also the wise woman of the Ahemussa Camp, I've also spoken with Shani. But, none of those conversations have triggered anything different.
It's not a big deal, I'm just curious because I like to properly complete quest mods. Smile
btw, Thanks for an awesome companion mod!
Yeah, that's pretty much the end! (I totally copped out on a wedding, I know...) Although you have missed one bit - at any point after, er, I think it's the corprus cure... you can have a conversation (triggered by a starlight night Wink) during which one thing might lead to another... Very Happy
I'm surprised you haven't come across that conversation earlier, actually, and if you're married, then you definitely should! Razz
As to whether Julan ever becomes ashkhan, the answer is not in this mod..... (but I have plans... see this thread!!)
K. *
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Posted by: Artemis
Post Posted: 11 Oct 2006 01:57 pm Post subject:
Thanks you for the quick reply!
Ooooh... Hints of a sequel??? I'd been hoping! Very Happy
Ah.... *That* explains things! I had thought an interlude of that nature would be sensible after the corprus cure. But, I use NOM, so in general my characters are fast asleep at night... Rolling Eyes
Hmmm... sounds as though it might be worth missing a few hours of naptime... Twisted Evil
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Posted by: Kateri
Post Posted: 11 Oct 2006 04:16 pm Post subject:
Artemis wrote: Thanks you for the quick reply!
Ooooh... Hints of a sequel??? I'd been hoping! Very Happy
Ah.... *That* explains things! I had thought an interlude of that nature would be sensible after the corprus cure. But, I use NOM, so in general my characters are fast asleep at night... Rolling Eyes
Hmmm... sounds as though it might be worth missing a few hours of naptime... Twisted Evil
Heh, I hadn't thought about that! I wanted it to occur semi-randomly and when you weren't expecting it, and assumed everyone ran around at night, cause the stars are just so pretty. Smile Forgot NOM makes you sleepy!
K.
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Posted by: Artemis
Post Posted: 11 Oct 2006 09:03 pm Post subject:
Just took a midnight stroll in the Ascadian Isles. Amazing how a bit of training in Destruction could be so inspiring! Very Happy
Seriously, I love how you did that, it felt so natural. In fact my current relationship of...er... a long time.. had very similar beginnings Embarassed
So, again, many thanks for a great mod, I look forward to any future additions, should you ever find the time.
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Post by loriel on Oct 13, 2010 0:03:54 GMT
Post subject: Julan: query.
Ok, I finally discovered the Julan companion mod (amazing how I had remained so ignorant as to its existence, given that I have been on these forums since it was planned... Just shows that I barely ever tread into the mod section of the forums... Embarassed ) Julan is a Great companion, and in my opinion, If he is as good as he is described, he'd be the best I've tried yet.
Exclamation Now, on to the problem: He had no compaion share function! I say 'had' because I used the console, and a little scrap of scripting knowledge, to 'set companion to 1' and give him the option. That's fine with me, but I want to know if this was intentional, and the companion share should appear later (after quests) or if this was just some insignificant bug.
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Posted by: Neko
Post Posted: 17 Oct 2006 09:59 pm Post subject:
Haven't played it (yet!! it's on my list of things to do! just busy!), but I'd hazard a guess that yes, it's intentional and will be unlocked later on in the story.
I mean, really, who would team up with someone and then immediately let this stranger mess with their inventory and play "dress-up"?
In the mod I'm making (very, very, slowly...), the characters certainly won't trust you completely to begin with - you'll have to earn their companionship.
-Neko [cat]
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Posted by: Serenity
Post Posted: 17 Oct 2006 10:31 pm Post subject:
You got to take Julan to a city like Balmora and talk to him. After a small chat, he'll have Companion Share.
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Posted by: Kateri
Post Posted: 18 Oct 2006 12:51 am Post subject:
Yes, since you've only just met him, it'd be a little odd if he let you take his clothes off. Razz
K.
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Posted by: Aidan
Post Posted: 18 Oct 2006 05:56 pm Post subject:
Kateri wrote: Yes, since you've only just met him, it'd be a little odd if he let you take his clothes off. Razz
K.
EEK! Oh, (un)merciful gods, what a terrible thought!
Is it a city, Like Balmora, or does it have to be Balmora? (I haven't gone anywhere near there). I wouldn't think of changing his armour yet, let alone clothes, but I used companion share to resupply Julan with ammunition. (He ran out of arrows, and I had a few hundred, and that was really bugging me). Confused
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Posted by: MyCat
Post Posted: 18 Oct 2006 06:55 pm Post subject:
Of course you can't take his clothes off as soon as you meet him. Julan is not Constance. [cringe: Grumpy it was supposed to be a joke. I never met Grumpy but I hope he would not be offended. Constance is my favorite companion but I'm actually bothered by the way she campanion shares with everyone. Grumpy and Emma FTW (to piss off Osiris)]
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Posted by: Aidan
Post Posted: 18 Oct 2006 07:31 pm Post subject:
MyCat wrote: Of course you can't take his clothes off as soon as you meet him.
EEK! But why would one want to do that, anyway! Even female characters...
MyCat wrote: Grumpy and Emma FTW (to piss off Osiris)
How would that piss of Osiris?
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Posted by: Serenity
Post Posted: 18 Oct 2006 10:09 pm Post subject:
Aidan wrote: EEK! Oh, (un)merciful gods, what a terrible thought!
Is it a city, Like Balmora, or does it have to be Balmora? (I haven't gone anywhere near there).
I know the dialogue appears in Ebonheart and Sadrith Mora too. Maybe a few other cities.
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Posted by:* Kateri
* Post Posted: 19 Oct 2006 01:34 am Post subject:
Balmora, Vivec, Sadrith Mora, Ebonheart and... Suran? Maybe.
K.
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Posted by: MyCat
Post Posted: 19 Oct 2006 04:23 am Post subject:
Aidan wrote:
MyCat wrote: Grumpy and Emma FTW (to piss off Osiris)
How would that piss of Osiris? "FTW" instead of "for the win" (which is bad enough, actually.)
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Posted by: Aidan
Post Posted: 19 Oct 2006 10:04 pm Post subject:
Kateri wrote: Balmora, Vivec, Sadrith Mora, Ebonheart and... Suran? Maybe.
K.
Okay. Unfortunately, I've only been to Ald-ruhn, Maar Gan, and Gnisis with him. I've been doing all the early Redoran quests before I start on the main quest. I'm heading off to Balmora, now though.
Quote:
MyCat wrote:
Grumpy and Emma FTW (to piss off Osiris)
Aidan wrote:
How would that piss of Osiris?
MyCat wrote: "FTW" instead of "for the win" (which is bad enough, actually.)
I think poor Osiris has now gained the reputation of a 'spelling policeman'. Osiris is no more fanatical on that than the most of us, methinks.
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Posted by: TS
Post Posted: 29 Nov 2006 06:11 pm Post subject:
While I'm stuck on a different part of this "extended" main quest. I just got to the point, where I have to talk to the other Ashlander in Ald-ruhn. However, i have no idea what to do, because now he won't even let me talk to him, he says he is thinking or something like that. Also, if I bring Julan along, he says I should finish my business with Julan first...what business is he talking about? Oh ya, I did get Julan Drunk and I did learn about his ex-girlfriend, but thats all i can get out of him.
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Posted by: MyCat
Post Posted: 29 Nov 2006 09:11 pm Post subject:
Explore all the options with Julan that involve his mother.
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Posted by: Kateri
Post Posted: 30 Nov 2006 03:09 am Post subject:
Yes... and if you haven't met his mother yet, then you need to finish the business about Red Mountain. And you need to train him a bit before some conversations will trigger... and be in the right city.
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Posted by: yeaumno
Post Posted: 01 Dec 2006 07:49 pm Post subject:
I accidently went through a door while levitating with Julan. I know it told me not to in the read me but I forgot. Is there any way to fix this or am I screwed?
Edit: I figured it out nevermind. I just asked at the Ald-Skar inn.
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Post by loriel on Oct 13, 2010 0:07:17 GMT
Posted by: Prince Maethis Post Posted: 04 Nov 2006 12:00 am Post subject: Problem with Julan Guys, I need help with Julan. Ok, here's what happened. I was getting the Ebony Mail up at the shrine, and this cliff racer came along, so I used my Bosmer's Beast Tongue power to enslave it, right. After that, I killed it, and Constance and Julan both started attacking me. So then I recalled back to the temple and waited 3 days so they'd forget about it, and i used companion teleport to bring them back from the mountain. Everything seemed fine, until I went to go see Julan's mom for that quest, and now she thinks he's dead!! I don't know how to fix it, and she won't talk to me anymore, can someone help me out here? Kateri, preferably, though I'd take anyone's help. _________________ "Never rely on the glory of the morning nor the smiles of your mother-in-law." -Japanese proverb ------------------------------------- Posted by: MuLTiViEW Post Posted: 04 Nov 2006 12:33 am Post subject: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Im sorry. Heh. That just sounds hilarious. That gives me ideas for some comical plugins. Sounds like something out of Monty Python or such. Perhaps this could be the inspiration of a strange new comical mod where you start out as a ghost and try and convince people you are alive... they go running off when you try and talk to them or something... heh... _________________ d0nKeY was here! ------------------------------------- Posted by: Kateri Post Posted: 04 Nov 2006 03:15 am Post subject: If his mum thinks he's dead, then at some point along the way the original Julan must have been killed... did you resurrect him, or anything like that? If not, can you post your modlist? Once the "dead-flag" gets set to 1 for a character, the game thinks they're dead, and there's no known fix that I know of, I'm afraid... K. ------------------------------------- Posted by: Prince Maethis Post Posted: 04 Nov 2006 03:31 am Post subject: I might've resurrected him awhile back, but if I did, I can't remember. Is there a way to advance the quest with the console in any way? Like journal entries and whatnot? _________________ "Never rely on the glory of the morning nor the smiles of your mother-in-law." -Japanese proverb ------------------------------------- Posted by: Kateri Post Posted: 04 Nov 2006 06:31 am Post subject: Not really, no. Resurrecting companions like Constance and Julan is a big no-no, it messes a lot of things up. Sorry... K. ------------------------------------- Posted by: Neko Post Posted: 04 Nov 2006 07:25 am Post subject: I don't want to give anyone false hope, but... it might just be possible with some save-game hacking and general mangling? Checking mw_esm.txt , at around 3/4 of the way down, it lists some differences that occur in save games. This document is a bit technical, but it listsall sorts of things about elder scrolls file formats, even some of the things found in ESS files (savegames). One of these records found in savegames seems to be this KLST (Kill Stats) thing - it has some kind of name (KNAM) plus a long (CNAM) which might indicate "what's been killed, and how many times". So removing this record, or even easier, setting it to 0, couild potentially fix these irritating obituraries for beloved companions. Now, this wouldn't be easy - I think you'd have to open up your save game with TESAME or Enchanted Editor, but it might be doable. Kateri, what's Julan's ID? Can't remember off the top of my head Razz (edit, silly me, didn't link to mw_esm.txt) (edit, and it doesn't like my link anyway, just paste it here www.uesp.net/Âtext.shtml?morrow/tech/mw_esm.txt)-Neko [cat] Last edited by Neko on 04 Nov 2006 08:04 am; edited 3 times in total ------------------------------------- * Posted by: Kateri Post Posted: 04 Nov 2006 07:48 am Post subject: The id is KS_Julan... and I had wondered a few times if the Enchanted Editor could do it, but never heard confirmation either way. I'd be interested to know... K. ------------------------------------- Posted by: Neko Post Posted: 04 Nov 2006 07:59 am Post subject: Right! I've just reinstalled Enchanted Editor (wouldn't run anymore, DLL Hell I assume), and checked out one of my saves, and I'm almost 100% sure this will work. What to do: - Install EE if you haven't already. www.elricm.com/nuke/html/modules.php@op=modload&name= Downloads&file=index&req=viewdownloaddetails&lid=96 - File > Open - It starts off in your Data Files directory ; go up a level, into Saves - Find your savegame. (Wrye Mash is your friend, etc. It should also be the one with the most recent datestamp. I'd avoid selecting the quicksave.ess file, just because I'm paranoid) - It does a lot of loading - Click the words "File Header" on the left - it should expand, and reveal another item along the lines of "TES3 Your Savegame Description" - just to make sure we're on the right one. - Scroll down to Player Kill List. It should be written in black; all the grey entries don't exist in your file. - Click "Player Kill List (1)" - Click "KLST" - You'll see a lot of KNAM and CNAM entries appear in the left pane, but more importantly, you'll see some blue details for this subrecord appear in the right pane. - Find the entry that says "Creature" that is set to the NPC ID of the person whose death you wish to undo. In our case, KS_Julan. - Underneath that, there's an entry "Kills": Presumably, it's 1 or more, causing all this trouble. Change it to 0. - Save. You did make backups, right? - Say the magic words: REZ PLZ Wink - Load Morrowind and rejoice! -Neko [cat] ------------------------------------- Posted by: Prince Maethis Post Posted: 05 Nov 2006 12:27 am Post subject: Omg, Neko, you're a computer god! It worked perfectly. I may actually start respecting Khajiit again!! _________________ "Never rely on the glory of the morning nor the smiles of your mother-in-law." -Japanese proverb ------------------------------------- Posted by: Kateri Post Posted: 05 Nov 2006 02:04 am Post subject: Prince Maethis wrote: Omg, Neko, you're a computer god! It worked perfectly. I may actually start respecting Khajiit again!! It did? Ah, wonderful! Thanks Neko! And ignore the backhanded insult above, Khajiit rule! [cat] [cat] [cat] K. ------------------------------------- Posted by: Prince Maethis Post Posted: 05 Nov 2006 03:01 am Post subject: That wasn't an insult. Gave my an idea for my next companion mod though. A slavemaster Khajiit. Mr. Green _________________ "Never rely on the glory of the morning nor the smiles of your mother-in-law." -Japanese proverb |
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Post by loriel on Oct 13, 2010 0:09:23 GMT
Post subject: Problem with Julan
I use the Julan companion mod. What an amazing companion mod! I love it! Heart
But I have a problem. When I was going to enter the Cavern of the Incarnate for Moon & Star, the door wouldn't open. What should I do next? Confused
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Posted by: De Fothers
Post Posted: 22 Nov 2006 06:33 am Post subject:
May be obvious - but did you wait ill the right time for it to open - Dawn or Dusk?? Smile
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It's coming yet for a' that,
That Man to Man, the world o'er,
Shall brothers be for a' that.
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Posted by: Kateri
Post Posted: 22 Nov 2006 06:40 am Post subject:
There are two things you need to do before the door will open, one to do with Shani, the other with Mashti.
Are you running v. 1.2 or an earlier version? There are more hints in 1.2 about this part... what have you done so far?
K.
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Posted by: miranda
Post Posted: 22 Nov 2006 08:52 am Post subject:
I am runing v. 1.1.
I have never seen Shani before. Where is she? I can't find her in Ahemmusa camp. And Rakkem told me the story of Mashti's murder. I don't know what I should do next. Crying or Very sad
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Posted by: Kateri
Post Posted: 22 Nov 2006 02:17 pm Post subject:
Hasn't Julan mentioned Shani yet? Try loosening his tongue with a drink or five...
K.
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Posted by: miranda
Post Posted: 23 Nov 2006 09:49 am Post subject:
I find her. Thank you!!!! Very Happy
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Posted by: miranda
Post Posted: 23 Nov 2006 02:30 pm Post subject:
And another qustion, when I took the Moon-and-Star, Julan left. And I entered an eggmine to find him, but the Ancestor Ghost refused to let me see Julan. How can I prove our friendship?
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Posted by: Kateri
Post Posted: 23 Nov 2006 03:50 pm Post subject: *
You need to find his telepathy ring. If you try to contact Julan using your own ring, you'll get a clue as to where it is...
K.
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Posted by: miranda
Post Posted: 23 Nov 2006 06:10 pm Post subject:
Sorry, my Ehglish is not good. I don't know what "scribs" means. Embarassed
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Posted by: Kateri
Post Posted: 23 Nov 2006 06:14 pm Post subject:
Scribs are the little crawly bug things with the legs you get in kwama mines...
(Oh, and if you really can't find it, try detect enchantment.)
K.
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Posted by: miranda
Post Posted: 24 Nov 2006 07:33 am Post subject:
Oh, yes, I found the ring. Thank you very much! Very Happy
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Posted by: MyCat
Post Posted: 26 Nov 2006 09:35 am Post subject:
There's a little typo in Shani's dialogue in 1.2 When a male PC uses the "kiss me" topic with Shani's disposition at 50 or more and Julan absent, she says "Mmmm... ^PCName, let's go to bed..."
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Posted by: Kateri
Post Posted: 26 Nov 2006 01:25 pm Post subject:
MyCat wrote: There's a little typo in Shani's dialogue in 1.2 When a male PC uses the "kiss me" topic with Shani's disposition at 50 or more and Julan absent, she says "Mmmm... ^PCName, let's go to bed..."
Curses. OK, thanks for the report. Smile
K.
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Post by loriel on Oct 13, 2010 0:10:28 GMT
Posted by: LongPigeon
Post Posted: 10 Dec 2006 03:33 pm Post subject: trouble finding Shani (Julan companion mod)
Hi, everyone.
I've been stuck on this part for quiet a while now. I am at the part where Shani went missing after the hunting, and Gunda (?) said they were west of tel vos, near the ne...(?) ancestral tomb. I have literally set foot on every inch of that piece of land, and have found nothing! Am I missing something here? anyone who has gotten past this point, please help! thanks a lot.
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Posted by: Kateri
Post Posted: 10 Dec 2006 03:55 pm Post subject:
Hiya,
Start from the Nerano tomb, and head west towards the mountains - where she was last seen running. Keep going, and fall into the foyada on the other side of the hills. And search the ground to the north for a clue...
K.
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Posted by: LongPigeon
Post Posted: 13 Dec 2006 04:20 pm Post subject:
hey, thanks a lot! I didn't think she'd have gone so far. and really without our hint, it probably would have been impossible for me to find her shield (tfh helped ^^)
maybe update on more in-game hints next time for people too lazy to think Smile no pressure though.
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Posted by: Apophis2412
Post Posted: 14 Dec 2006 01:39 am Post subject:
Yeah, some hints would be nice. I had the same problem. In the end I just used the CS and a coc command to find her. Laughing
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In the great wind of progress, tradition cannot stand.
Grasp fortune by the forelocks. When you see your chances, seize them.
When you see a chance to turn a profit, take it. But do not follow money blindly.
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Posted by: shanza
Post Posted: 14 Dec 2006 04:46 am Post subject:
I didn't visit Shani before going to the Cave of Incarnate, so I did have to return to Ahemmusa camp. Shani has gone now hunting and I've been waiting around about week now. Nothing happened. Everybody tells me that she's still gone hunting = no hints where to look for her. I headed to west to Nerano tomb, runned to foyada, looked north and south and and everywhere founding nothing.
So is there some time trigger that I have to wait to meet this Gunda and get things rolling again.
And thanks for this awesome mod Very Happy
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Posted by: Kateri
Post Posted: 14 Dec 2006 04:58 am Post subject:
shanza wrote: I didn't visit Shani before going to the Cave of Incarnate, so I did have to return to Ahemmusa camp. Shani has gone now hunting and I've been waiting around about week now. Nothing happened. Everybody tells me that she's still gone hunting = no hints where to look for her. I headed to west to Nerano tomb, runned to foyada, looked north and south * and and everywhere founding nothing.
So is there some time trigger that I have to wait to meet this Gunda and get things rolling again.
And thanks for this awesome mod Very Happy
Yes, you need to trigger a conversation with Julan in a major city first...
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Posted by: shanza
Post Posted: 14 Dec 2006 05:02 am Post subject:
Kateri wrote:
Yes, you need to trigger a conversation with Julan in a major city first...
Thanks! You saved my day! Mr. Green
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Posted by: dove10
Post Posted: 28 Apr 2007 10:32 am Post subject:
Hi. I have found Shani's shield in front of the abandoned mine, however I can't get in their because it says that "the door is blocked by fallen rocks on the other side" and then it adds that I need the proper mining tools to clear it. Is Shani in the mine and what specific tool do I need?
Thanks!
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Posted by: shanza
Post Posted: 28 Apr 2007 10:51 am Post subject:
Yes, she is trapped there Smile
Hint for the tool:
"If you dig dig dig with a shovel or a pick
In a mine! In a mine! In a mine! In a mine!
Where a million diamonds shine!" - Heigh-Ho by Seven Dwarfs from Snow White
Wink
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Posted by: dove10
Post Posted: 28 Apr 2007 08:37 pm Post subject:
Thank you!!!! Mr. Green
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Post by loriel on Oct 13, 2010 0:11:30 GMT
Posted by: niz Post Posted: 14 Dec 2006 08:24 pm Post subject: julan troubles gah, i'm having trouble finding him i think i found where he ran off too, ranyabi egg mine, but it wont let me in. i'm not exactly sure what to do  help anyone? ------------------------------------- Posted by: Magicflame Post Posted: 15 Dec 2006 03:27 am Post subject: Just listen to what his mother tells you. Wink ------------------------------------- Posted by: Kateri Post Posted: 15 Dec 2006 05:56 am Post subject: Yeah, you have the correct place, but looks like Julan isn't there just yet. Try passing a little time talking to the women in his life. ------------------------------------- Posted by: Apophis2412 Post Posted: 15 Dec 2006 02:12 pm Post subject: Kateri wrote: Yeah, you have the correct place, but looks like Julan isn't there just yet. Try passing a little time talking to the women in his life. Do you mean that some of the player's charaters should start talking to themselves? Laughing _________________ In the great wind of progress, tradition cannot stand. Grasp fortune by the forelocks. When you see your chances, seize them. When you see a chance to turn a profit, take it. But do not follow money blindly. ------------------------------------- Posted by: niz Post Posted: 17 Dec 2006 10:28 am Post subject: thx for the help! ------------------------------------- Posted by: LongPigeon Post Posted: 18 Dec 2006 12:22 am Post subject: Hi, I'm back again, and this time I'm stuck on this part. T_T Kateri, your mod is definitely made for someone smarter than me T_T So I found he's in Ranyabi mine, and I talked to the ghost who needs token from me, and it seems like it's not the ring he's talking about. I've talked to both Shani and his mom, the first one won't say anything (just the red "good bye" forcing me to stop), and the second one don't give any more help either. So unless there's some other woman in his life that I don't know about <_< ------------------------------------- Posted by: Kateri Post Posted: 18 Dec 2006 01:24 am Post subject: You need to find the *other* telepathy ring - it's not far. Did you try contacting Julan with the telepathy ring after he left? K. ------------------------------------- Posted by:* wolfie Post Posted: 26 Mar 2007 09:44 am Post subject: * I am having a similar problem. Julan's mom has barricaded the door and won't let me in and shani is still on the mend from the hunting incident. I used the ring but the the description can be infinite locations in morrowind (lots of scribs running around close to water). I checked the bar in Ald ruhn where he hangs out but nothing. So should I give julan's women some time to recover and /or recompose themselves? I was going to do a tour of all the bars in morrowind but an incarnate has things to do, lol. ------------------------------------- Posted by: Kateri Post Posted: 26 Mar 2007 12:50 pm Post subject: wolfie wrote: I am having a similar problem. Julan's mom has barricaded the door and won't let me in and shani is still on the mend from the hunting incident. I used the ring but the the description can be infinite locations in morrowind (lots of scribs running around close to water). I checked the bar in Ald ruhn where he hangs out but nothing. So should I give julan's women some time to recover and/or recompose themselves? I was going to do a tour of all the bars in morrowind but an incarnate has things to do, lol. Did you try Shani again after Mashti barricaded the door? She ought to speak to you after that. K. ------------------------------------- Posted by: wolfie Post Posted: 26 Mar 2007 09:03 pm Post subject: Will do. I guess I can do some of the Daedra quests I have been putting off while I wait for Shani to recover and make an appearance. Thanks for the tip. ------------------------------------- Posted by: Kateri Post Posted: 27 Mar 2007 03:23 am Post subject: wolfie wrote: Will do. I guess I can do some of the Daedra quests I have been putting off while I wait for Shani to recover and make an appearance. Thanks for the tip.  No, you shouldn't have to wait. She ought to speak to you now. What are your last journal entries? K. ------------------------------------- Posted by: laurenap01 Post Posted: 25 Feb 2008 01:12 am Post subject: ranyabi egg mine Alright I'm feeling rather silly about this but I just can't find Julan s ring. I am actually in the ranyabi egg mine swimming all over the floor casting detect enchantment spells (50-75 ft) and not coming up with ANYTHING. His mother s and ex s roles in order to get me inside the mine are complete and there seems to be no mod that is interfering with this great mod. I guess what would be useful to know is if I need the item or the item and a journal entry. ------------------------------------- Posted by: Kateri Post Posted: 25 Feb 2008 02:23 am Post subject: Did you try using your telepathy ring? You get a hint. It IS in the mine, btw... you're on the right track with detect enchantment. K. |
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Post by loriel on Oct 13, 2010 0:12:15 GMT
Posted by: skinkfem
Post Posted: 29 Dec 2006 09:55 am Post subject: julan fathers remains
ok im on the quest where i must search for julans fathers remains in that daedra cave behind the sixth house cave. and have run into the "mystirious daedric barrier" or something like that. i assume that i need some kind of journal entry for it to disappear but i cant figure out what.
ive been in several major towns
ive had both shani and julan along
and tested with only julan and tested solo
the mother, the widow and the ahemusa wise woman is less than helpfull
what need i do?
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Posted by: Kateri
Post Posted: 29 Dec 2006 10:00 am Post subject:
Everything you need to get past the barrier is right there in the cave with you.
Did you find the body of the Dreamer woman and read the note?
K.
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Posted by: skinkfem
Post Posted: 30 Dec 2006 03:00 am Post subject:
sorry the note don't gives any real hints.
something about an altar, the only one i can think of is the sixth house one and that one dont seem to be manipulatable.
then it says something about the thin ones with nails, the hungers i presume
and that they will carry me throe the barrier, but they are so far intent on killing me.
so im still stuck
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Posted by: Magicflame
Post Posted: 30 Dec 2006 04:06 am Post subject:
I had the same problem, but Kateri gave me a hint. Applause
"The thin ones with the nails" are of course the hungers, there are three of them - constantly respawning.
SPOILER - mark to read:
Just hide yourself behind some rocks or so and let one of them (closest to the magic door) get out of magic, make him (it) follow you near the door and then use the scroll of command creature (you should tell Julan first to stay out of battle) - et voilà : you can click on the glowing field and pass. But be careful - if one of the "normal" hungers can kill you, then ... it will be difficult on the other side! Shhh
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Posted by: skinkfem
Post Posted: 30 Dec 2006 07:30 am Post subject:
thanks that helped. i would never have thought of that. the test-run pc has convinced me that this mod is a keeper any time i will play the mainquest.
now im off to play tribunal to see if julan has any specific quest dialog there and than test lost heir to check for interaction.
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Posted by: anais
Post Posted: 06 Jan 2007 05:08 pm Post subject:
skinkfem wrote: sorry the note don't gives any real hints.
something about an altar, the only one i can think of is the sixth house one and that one dont seem to be manipulatable.
then it says something about the thin ones with nails, the hungers i presume
* and that they will carry me throe the barrier, but they are so far intent on killing me.
so im still stuck
My problem is (duh): My Dunmer can probably out run the Hungers and lure them to the passage but Julan and Constance get trigger-happy and kill them before they get into the tunnel even if I order J & C not to fight. This getting a Hunger close enough to the Daedric passage to open it is taking forever.
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Posted by: Kateri
Post Posted: 06 Jan 2007 08:08 pm Post subject:
anais wrote:
My problem is (duh): My Dunmer can probably out run the Hungers and lure them to the passage but Julan and Constance get trigger-happy and kill them before they get into the tunnel even if I order J & C not to fight. This getting a Hunger close enough to the Daedric passage to open it is taking forever.
You could tell them to wait by the portal.
K.
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Posted by: anais
Post Posted: 07 Jan 2007 11:35 am Post subject:
Kateri wrote: anais wrote:
My problem is (duh): My Dunmer can probably out run the Hungers and lure them to the passage but Julan and Constance get trigger-happy and kill them before they get into the tunnel even if I order J & C not to fight. This getting a Hunger close enough to the Daedric passage to open it is taking forever.
You could tell them to wait by the portal.
K.
Thanks for the info (and Incidentally for a great mod.) It worked and we got back to the camp with Julan's father's bones.
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Posted by: Forest Stalker
Post Posted: 02 Apr 2007 09:57 am Post subject:
I hope it's alright to post in this older thread. I just reached the sixth house shrine, picked up the scrolls that were in the there but can't figure out how to proceed. On my map I see what appears to be a door around the area where all the ash statues are but can't seem to actually find the door which I am guessing, goes into the deadric cave.
Edit: Okay. It took some jumping around and I got caught on some rocks a few times but I fianlly got close enough to the hole in the rock to click on it.
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Post by loriel on Oct 13, 2010 0:13:53 GMT
Posted by: wolfie
Post Posted: 15 Jan 2007 05:06 am Post subject: Julan problems
I have Julan tagging along and I am doing the MQ in morrowind. I am at the point of dealing with Hassour Zainsubani but everytime I try to talk to him he says I should conclude my business with Julan. Also Julan is not giving me any clues to what to do next with his business either.
I have everything I need (the books) for this part of the MQ (I have done it before) and the only thing different I am running the Julan mod.
I not sure how to proceed from here.
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Posted by: Kateri
Post Posted: 15 Jan 2007 05:35 am Post subject:
Hiya!
You have to finish J's first quest before you can do the Zainsubani bit - there are a few steps to go through...
- addressing the Red Mountain issue.
- training Julan by at least 15 points
* - a conversation in Vivec
- training Julan by another 15 points (you can have done this already, so long as the total is 30, any combination of skills is ok)
- a conversation in Balmora...leading to a quest which should be fairly clear to follow.
Hope this helps! Smile
K.
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Post by loriel on Oct 13, 2010 0:16:03 GMT
Posted by: life2if
Post Posted: 02 Feb 2007 11:50 pm Post subject: Kateri,help
I've used your Julan Ashlander Companion v. 1.2.,and I love Julan so much. Thank you for the great mod. Here is some questions:
1. I just talked to Rakeem, and he told the story about Julan's mother. The journal said I need to find more proof, I'm lost here. What I should do next? I have talk to every ashlander in the camp.
2. I did save Shani from hunting event, and she said she want to have a rest. I have wait about 30 days, she still repeat that she need rest. How long she should rest? Or there is some other action I need to do.
3. I just found your romance path, and install it. When I loading a exist save(with Julan in it), the error information shows up said "some item"about Chindren (I don't remember the Id) not found in the current save file......What should I do?
Waiting for your help! Thanks a lot!
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Posted by: Kateri
Post Posted: 03 Feb 2007 01:40 am Post subject: Re: Kateri,help
life2if wrote: I've used your Julan Ashlander Companion v. 1.2.,and I love Julan so much. Thank you for the great mod. Here is some questions:
1. I just talked to Rakeem, and he told the story about Julan's mother. The journal said I need to find more proof, I'm lost here. What I should do next? I have talk to every ashlander in the camp.
2. I did save Shani from hunting event, and she said she want to have a rest. I have wait about 30 days, she still repeat that she need rest. How long she should rest? Or there is some other action I need to do.
3. I just found your romance path, and install it. When I loading a exist save(with Julan in it), the error information shows up said "some item"about Chindren (I don't remember the Id) not found in the current save file......What should I do?
Waiting for your help! Thanks a lot!
HI,
1.) You don't need to do anything else, the information will emerge in time...
2.) Just forget about her for now and carry on the main quest!
3.) If you mean the Julan RomMod patch, that's not a romance path, there is already a romance as part of the main mod, if you want it. That's a patch in case you are running the Romance Mod, so if you're not running that mod, you can't use it. You're not missing anything.
K.
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Posted by: life2if
Post Posted: 03 Feb 2007 02:23 am Post subject: Thanks
Thank you!
For question 1, and 2 I've spend days on them, sigh~~
for question 3, I did mean romance mod. I've never use that mod before, bust I want to try~
So I need to install an additional romance mod to apply your path right? (If I do not misunderstand you)
Thanks! *
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Posted by: Kateri
Post Posted: 03 Feb 2007 02:52 am Post subject: Re: Thanks
life2if wrote: Thank you!
For question 1, and 2 I've spend days on them, sigh~~
for question 3, I did mean romance mod. I've never use that mod before, bust I want to try~
So I need to install an additional romance mod to apply your path right? (If I do not misunderstand you)
Thanks!
Yes, you need to be running the Romance Mod as well.
But if you're trying it for the first time, I don't recommend using it with Julan. In fact, I don't recommend using it with Julan full stop. The patch is for those who feel they really must... Razz
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Posted by: Magicflame
Post Posted: 05 Feb 2007 01:50 pm Post subject:
I would not play without that patch anymore! Very Happy
Everytime I am pregnant (not from Julan Razz ) and ask him "why don't we have a drink" , he stops me and says he won't drink with me because I am pregnant, that's so gorgeous!! Applause
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Posted by: melian
Post Posted: 06 Feb 2007 03:31 am Post subject:
I've never played the Romance Mod, but I downloaded the patch just to take a look at it in the editor and have a good laugh at the dialouge. Laughing
I also read Julan's dialogue for quests my pcchars never do (Mages' Guild, Temple) when I need cheering up. Works better than an antidepressant, and it's healthier too! Very Happy
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Post by loriel on Oct 13, 2010 0:17:15 GMT
Posted by: Popsajcle
Post Posted: 19 Feb 2007 11:07 am Post subject: Um, I need some help with Julan.
Well, to begin with, I'm totally new here so if I screw up in some way and do something wrong, please don't hurt me. I was going to ask, I can't enter the Cavern of the Incarnate because it says I need to do something with Shani, and she told me to come back when she's returned from hunting, but now I've been doing other stuff for days, almost counting in weeks, and she just tells me to come back later and she'll speak to me then. I've spoken to Rakeem and Ahmabi and Nibani Maesa and all of that, but well... yeah.
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Posted by: Purre
Post Posted: 19 Feb 2007 11:30 am Post subject:
Go to some larger town like Sadrith Mora or some such, and talk with Julan. He should then talk about Shani to you, after which you can proceed once more. I don't know which places are good for this, but at least Sadrith Mora has worked out for me.
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Posted by: Popsajcle
* Post Posted: 19 Feb 2007 11:55 am Post subject:
Okies, thanks! Mr. Green
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Post by loriel on Oct 13, 2010 0:18:30 GMT
Posted by: phillygirl41
Post Posted: 09 Mar 2007 07:12 pm Post subject: Julan & tried to finish main quest
I completed the main quest. I hit the heart with Sunder then with Keening. I left Julan outside the door to finish it. My journal tells me that I had to flee the chamber. But when I go back to Julan he keeps saying "are you ready to go in" and no one regonizes me as the Neverarine. I did not get the cut scene with Azura giving me her ring either..
I have finished all of Julans quests. Help... Great MOd.. just confused
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Posted by: Kateri
Post Posted: 10 Mar 2007 03:08 am Post subject:
PMed you over at ESF. Smile
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Post by loriel on Oct 13, 2010 0:20:34 GMT
Posted by: guiltfeeder566
Post Posted: 30 Mar 2007 06:13 pm Post subject: Julan dialog problems
I'v gotten to the part in the MQ where you have to get the fake bride. during that quest i had one of those orphaned records things where Julan disappered. So i loaded up a new file and it worked. But since then two things have been happening. The first is that "lets go to bed" topic hasen't been working. I tell him, click on the bed and just wake up, no extra stuff (i have the romance patch, if thats importent). Also He wont get undrunk, even if i rest for sevrel days.
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Posted by: Kateri
Post Posted: 31 Mar 2007 05:06 am Post subject: Re: Julan dialog problems
guiltfeeder566 wrote: I'v gotten to the part in the MQ where you have to get the fake bride. during that quest i had one of those orphaned records things where Julan disappered. So i loaded up a new file and it worked. But since then two things have been happening. The first is that "lets go to bed" topic hasen't been working. I tell him, click on the bed and just wake up, no extra stuff (i have the romance patch, if thats importent). Also He wont get undrunk, even if i rest for sevrel days.
* Hello... I suspect your save may have got a bit corrupted somehow (Morrowind does that) and possibly have some doubling - try COC ing to Ghostgate and see if a duplicate Julan has turned up.
If so, reload a save before the problem, and try cleaning your saves with Wrye Mash. If no doubling, you might be OK to clean your current save with Wrye Mash.
Hope this is some help.. but messed up references can be nasty, and can be hard to fix. Always make sure your saves are blue in Mash at all times, and keep them that way!
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Post by loriel on Oct 13, 2010 0:21:56 GMT
Posted by: LightDrake
Post Posted: 04 Apr 2007 05:05 pm Post subject: Julan Help needed
I was going to change out julans armor after kogohurn and his companion share was missing. How do I fix this?
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Posted by: Kateri
Post Posted: 05 Apr 2007 02:50 am Post subject:
Open console, click him, type: set companion to 1
Any idea why it vanished? It might be an indication of other problems, that's all...
K.
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Posted by: LightDrake
Post Posted: 05 Apr 2007 12:30 pm Post subject:
Thanks that fixed it *
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Posted by: shiro
Post Posted: 08 Apr 2007 02:32 am Post subject:
I've had this problem with other companions -namely laurenna and constance - as well; they follow you around but the game doesnt identify them as companions; usually if you click the follow/together option, they behave as if they were not following until then (i.e. you get the "would you like me to come with you/do you want us to stay together/etc" option,despite the fact that they had been doing so already).
It happens very rarely though, and I couldn't see any definite pattern or reason behind it. Confused
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Post by loriel on Oct 13, 2010 0:23:30 GMT
Posted by: shanza
Post Posted: 13 Apr 2007 09:34 am Post subject: Julan and Telvanni Bride problem
In simple she doesn't want to follow me.
I've given her new clothes and perfume that triggers travel together dialogue. Clicking on that she asks if we're ready to travel to Zainab camp giving two options -> Yes, follow me. and No, wait here. Of course I want her to travel with me, but her response quite the opposite: Then why did you ask? And she won't follow me (and yes, I've opened her slave pod... Wink ) and her disposition towards me drops ten points.
What to do? If I can't get her moving, I won't be able to beat Dagoth Ur once again Crying or Very sad
I've tried Wrye Mash to repair things but it didn't help in this case.
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Posted by: rumilmirion
Post Posted: 13 Apr 2007 11:48 am Post subject: Re: Julan and Telvanni Bride problem
I seem to recall there being a thread about this on ESF a while ago, but can't find it for the life of me to see what Kateri said. Opening the console, clicking on the slave and typing: Code: AiFollow, player, 0, 0, 0, 0 then hitting enter should work.
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Posted by: shanza
Post Posted: 13 Apr 2007 11:52 am Post subject:
Thank you so much! I'm going to try it out right now Very Happy
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Posted by: Kateri
Post Posted: 13 Apr 2007 12:37 pm Post subject:
* Wasn't meee! Razz
This bug is caused by Morrowind Comes Alive, although the new version fixes it.
And yeah, rumil's advice will work. Smile
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Posted by: rumilmirion
Post Posted: 13 Apr 2007 01:35 pm Post subject:
Kateri wrote: Wasn't meee! Razz Just remembered that that's why I couldn't find the thread. Apologies for indirectly incorrectly blaming you. Smile
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Posted by: shanza
Post Posted: 14 Apr 2007 04:42 am Post subject:
It worked!
Heh, I've got too many mods running at same time so sorting out the problematic one is quite difficult. Smile
*rushes to get update for MCA*
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Post by loriel on Oct 13, 2010 0:24:27 GMT
Posted by: Forest Stalker
Post Posted: 01 Apr 2007 04:19 pm Post subject: I give up. I can't find Julan
I saw in another thread which egg mine Julan is hiding in but I can't find it. I've just spent nearly two and a half real time hours, and erased a lot of the black from my map in the south-west part of the Grazelands but can't find the mine where Julan ran off too.
I tried to avoid spoilers but could anyone give me an idea where I can find this egg mine?
Edited to add: Whew! Found him. Wow I REALLY misunderstood his mother's direction. I was searching an entirely different section of the map. Oh well. It was all worth it for that beautiful "reunited" dialog between Julan and the PC. Wink
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Posted by: shiro
Post Posted: 17 Apr 2007 04:46 am Post subject:
Could you help me out a little? I found the ranyabi egg mine but I can't get in - it says that I have no reason to go into an old eggmine and all (though a message like that obviously implies that there is something in there Razz)
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Posted by: Kateri
* Post Posted: 17 Apr 2007 02:11 pm Post subject:
shiro wrote: Could you help me out a little? I found the ranyabi egg mine but I can't get in - it says that I have no reason to go into an old eggmine and all (though a message like that obviously implies that there is something in there Razz)
It means noone is in there *yet*.
Did you talk to Shani and Mashti yet? Check what your journal says...
K.
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No, you shouldn't have to wait. She ought to speak to you now. What are your last journal entries?