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Post by gkw62 on May 15, 2014 5:58:45 GMT
Hi there, There is no "I love you" dialogue option. I have Vilja version 3.02,installed later in the game after marrying Lydia. The Lydia marriage was glitched, she disappeared right away, I could not find her, she was not at any of my houses. After installing Vilja and completing her missions Vilja said something like 'It's a pity you're already married'. I've since done the console divorce, then Lydia appeared at one of the Heathfire houses.
The asking about marriage dialogue isn't available with the guy at the Temple of Mara. Wearing the Amulet of Mara doesn't give the 'Are you interested in me?' dialogue option with anyone. I've also killed Lydia, even that made no difference.
The only thing left that I want to do in this play through is marry Vilja. What can I do?
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Post by Seyheb on May 15, 2014 6:21:15 GMT
Hi,
I'm not clear who you are asking about when you say there's no marriage dialogue, Lydia or Vilja?. Also when you say you have completed Vilja's missions, were these missions connected with her romance?
Vilja doesn't use the vanilla romance and marriage quests (except to check whether the player is already married), she has her own and they don't involve the Amulet of Mara (which she thinks is silly) or talking to the priest at the Temple of Mara. Also, romancing Vilja takes time and involves a number of quest stages. She will bring these up in her dialogue over time but they won't come up "instantly".
However, you must not be married to anyone else to be able to marry Vilja. If divorcing Lydia via the console hasn't worked, you might try using one of the many divorce mods.
If you are sure your character is no longer married to Lydia or anyone else, then just give it time and the relevant options should appear.
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Post by questinghood on May 15, 2014 6:22:33 GMT
Hi I'm going to copy the full wiki just incase you got the commands from somewhere else and it might not had them all? Steps to re-marry using console commands: Select spouse. Enter the following console commands: removefac 51596 player.removefac C6472 resetquest 74793 resetquest 21382 setstage 74793 10 Wait for 24 hours. Then proceed to marry as normal. How far along in Vilja's quest lines are you? Have you done any of her marriage quests? I don't know much about Vilja's different stages so someone, much more knowledgeable, will have to help you. Sorry. P.S. Resurrect Lydia... she's a good lady. [edit]lol Seyheb... we posted at same time. [edit2] The amulets of Mara are silly!
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Post by Seyheb on May 15, 2014 6:33:40 GMT
Lol Questinghood. Useful information though. P.S. "Wait 24 hours and proceed to marry as normal" doesn't apply to Vilja as she has her own system and timings.
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Post by questinghood on May 15, 2014 6:37:25 GMT
Yea... hehe, I'm also a little curious of why it says to setstage 74793 10.
But now I'm wondering if he at least sets himself back... if the diolog options for 'allready done some of your quests' would appear in Vilja's dialog?
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Post by Dova on May 15, 2014 6:58:03 GMT
Yea... hehe, I'm also a little curious of why it says to setstage 74793 10. But now I'm wondering if he at least sets himself back... if the diolog options for 'allready done some of your quests' would appear in Vilja's dialog? That's to rollback the vanilla marriage quest just right after the player has talked to Maramal about Mara and marriage in Skyrim. And all those console commands are done in the suggested divorce mods (in the FAQ) too, which I recommend over messing with the console.
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Post by Dova on May 15, 2014 7:02:34 GMT
Hi there, There is no "I love you" dialogue option. I have Vilja version 3.02,installed later in the game after marrying Lydia. The Lydia marriage was glitched, she disappeared right away, I could not find her, she was not at any of my houses. After installing Vilja and completing her missions Vilja said something like 'It's a pity you're already married'. I've since done the console divorce, then Lydia appeared at one of the Heathfire houses.
The asking about marriage dialogue isn't available with the guy at the Temple of Mara. Wearing the Amulet of Mara doesn't give the 'Are you interested in me?' dialogue option with anyone. I've also killed Lydia, even that made no difference.
The only thing left that I want to do in this play through is marry Vilja. What can I do? Use one of the suggested divorce mods from Vilja's FAQ (which I have linked in my mini profile). Then continue playing Skyrim with Vilja, once you have finished with her main quest, her romance quest will start. You don't talk to Maramal to marry Vilja, you have to date her. If you have already finished Vilja's main quest, be patient, she can pop the topic any minute.
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Post by Seyheb on May 15, 2014 7:09:19 GMT
You will find a complete list of available divorce mods by typing "Divorce" into the 'Search' option at the top of the Skyrim page at the Nexus site ( www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/?). You will find several there. Then once you are sure you are unmarried, then as I said earlier, just give it time for Vilja's own unique romance and marriage quest options to appear and you don't speak to the priest Maramal or use the amulet.
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Post by gkw62 on May 15, 2014 13:58:46 GMT
Hi, I'm not clear who you are asking about when you say there's no marriage dialogue, Lydia or Vilja?. Also when you say you have completed Vilja's missions, were these missions connected with her romance? Vilja doesn't use the vanilla romance and marriage quests (except to check whether the player is already married), she has her own and they don't involve the Amulet of Mara (which she thinks is silly) or talking to the priest at the Temple of Mara. Also, romancing Vilja takes time and involves a number of quest stages. She will bring these up in her dialogue over time but they won't come up "instantly". However, you must not be married to anyone else to be able to marry Vilja. If divorcing Lydia via the console hasn't worked, you might try using one of the many divorce mods. If you are sure your character is no longer married to Lydia or anyone else, then just give it time and the relevant options should appear.
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Post by gkw62 on May 15, 2014 14:35:19 GMT
To Seyheb and Questinghood, Thanks for the posts, my concern is with Vilja.
Don't worry Questinghood Lydia was resurrected, (I'm not a complete sociopath ;-D). I think I've completed all of Vilja's Skyrim quests, the bottle, the necklace, the bow, she's fully qualified as a bard, has several chants, I bugged her redguard friend (Mikhael?) so much that he now hangs out in the Temple instead of the Bards College, and will only talk about bard assignments or tasks for the college, in the college.
I know Vilja doesn't respond to the Amulet of Mara, I only check with that to find out if my character is unmarried. Apparently he's still married, because none of the vanilla marriage dialogue is available.
QUESTION: Is speaking to Maramal or using the amulet a reliable way to check if my character is unmarried?
I've spoken to Vilja's friend Beara at the Inn in Riverwood. Vilja's disposition is at 100, has been for some time. Someone said 'you have to date her' I guess that's the Dining out line, and drinks at whatever inn and watching her dance on the tables, camping out, going swimming. Yes I'll stick at it, as Yarl of Iverstead I have a hot tub too.
My plan now is to use some divorce mods, make sure Jim isn't married. There was a significant change in Vilja's comments after getting the chants done. So maybe I'm just impatient.
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Post by Seyheb on May 15, 2014 15:39:11 GMT
Dating her involves a number of things. Keeping her disposition high by being generally nice to her and helpful is very important of course (you can check her disposition to you via the "lets talk for a little while" dialogue and asking her how her skills are progressing), but there are also quest stages that occur that require you to do things or make responses as you progress the romance. These pop up at intervals once her main mission quests are completed and it sounds as if you have completed those. It is a relatively slow process like the real thing (I know, I've married her three times, five if you include the marriage ceremony itself!). I won't spoil things, but you do need to be patient. As for your specific question, It is Vilja's own system that checks against the vanilla system to see if your character is already married, which is the only time the vanilla system is used by her. I've not personally checked to see whether using Maramal or the amulet is a reliable way for you to check whether you are still married to someone else, but I would imagine that if the vanilla system isn't available to you, then the chances are that you are still married. Just don't find yourself marrying someone else! However I suggest going ahead with using one of the divorce mods as you plan to do, and then be patient. [edit] P.S. Her Redguard friend is called Wilbert and he moves to the Bards' College to be the provider of the Bard quests. Mikael is the bard at the Bannered Mare at Whiterun. Are you saying that Wilbert is now at the temple?
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Post by wotan on May 15, 2014 19:19:04 GMT
Vilja doesn't even like Mikael.
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Post by Dova on May 15, 2014 19:33:21 GMT
gkw62It is best to run a divorce mod to reset various factions and queststages, it's less hassle and less error-prone this way. After that, if you would like to expedite the romance, you can do this: Talk to Beata in the Bannered Mare and tell her that the romance should have started, OROpen console, click on Vilja, enter:[/p][p]SetStage AAEMCompViljaRomance1 5[/p][p]SetFactionRank XX0845F8 1 (replace XX with Vilja's first 2 digits of FormID)
I don't know how/why you found Beata at the Inn in Riverwood...perhaps that just a typo? And you can check Vilja's disposition in the same message-box you check her combat skills, there's no need to summon Beata for this.
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Post by Seyheb on May 15, 2014 22:07:39 GMT
gkw62, you can just choose one of the divorce mods from the Nexus via the link I posted, you will find an up-to-date list there. Or if you wish you can use one of those two examples, one of which doesn't appear in the list because it doesn't have 'divorce' in the title (the other is in the list). It shouldn't make a difference. If you have any doubts about which one to choose, read the descriptions plus the posts users have made about each one. As I mentioned, you can check her disposition at any time via her dialogue options.
P.S. Just a reminder to let us know where you are seeing Wilbert, whether at the Bards College or the temple.
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Post by gkw62 on May 16, 2014 2:53:16 GMT
Thanks guys,
Yes it's Wilbert not Mikael, and Wilbert is now at the Temple of the Divines. If I've got that name correct, Wilbert is at whatever temple is in Solitude near Castle Dour. The temple where that woman was getting married (Vicci?) but the Dragonborn dumps a statue on her to kill her.
At Vilja's suggestion I spoke to Beata in Whiterun, not Riverwood.
The question mark after the name Mikhael meant that I was not sure of the name.
I've now used a divorce mod, the vanilla 'Are you interested in me?' appeared again. So Vilja and Jim are probably good to go, if I have the patience.
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