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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 27 Feb 2006 04:31 am Post subject: Constance and LGNPC
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Title: Constance and LGNPC
Post by: LilKid on Aug 04, 2005, 07:43 am
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Emma, I dont know if this is actually a conflict or not Embarassed but Constance NEVER ever steal from NPC edited by LGNPC. When I mean steal I meant the stealing assistance from the 'background' topic... Err can you understand that since I need to read it twice to understand it myself Laughing
It could be no conflict at all or I just might make myself a clown here Very Happy

The LGNPC changed all the background topic so you might look into it ..


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Title: Re: Constance and LGNPC
Post by: Emma on Aug 04, 2005, 10:55 am
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Quote from: LilKid
Emma, I dont know if this is actually a conflict or not Embarassed but Constance NEVER ever steal from NPC edited by LGNPC. When I mean steal I meant the stealing assistance from the 'background' topic... Err can you understand that since I need to read it twice to understand it myself Laughing
It could be no conflict at all or I just might make myself a clown here Very Happy

The LGNPC changed all the background topic so you might look into it ..



I have heard this, too...
As you say, LGNPC changes all the background topics. Which means that Constance won't steal from the npcs. Sad

Well... When people ask about dialog, I always recommend them: never touch game original topics if it's not 100 % necessary. Create your own unique topics instead... Else, you might have your stuff overwritten by other mods, or, worse, your mod might ruin other mods.

And then... I... do... exactly... that... mistake... myself [BangHead]

Had I been smarter, I would have make some other background topic, or topic about weather or whatever to use for Constance pickpocketing sessions. But. I didn't. I thought my little addition to the background-topic was harmless, as it couldn't affect any storylines. And it would have been quite a lot of time-consuming extrajob to come up with dialog for other npcs for a new potential pickpocketing-topic.
And now Constance is overwritten by another mod that also didn't create new topics. Rolling Eyes

I don't know, maybe in a future I rewrite this for Constance. But, I'm not doing it now. I have finished an update of Constance, I'm just waiting for the proofread material, then I will upload it. I haven't done anything about the LGNPC-conflict. You'll simply have to live with the fact that Constance won't help you to pick people's pockets in LGNPC-areas.


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Title: Constance and LGNPC
Post by: LilKid on Aug 04, 2005, 07:23 pm
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Hey, Dont feel so bad... we never can tell what future holds for us Smile There are still Vivec, Balmora, Caldera and most eastern city that havent been touch yet. So, there are still place for our cute little WE thief to do her job Laughing

I would really love to proofread, Emma, but I want Constance to be special so I wont spoil myself with her story. I'll help you with any other mod if you want ..

Hope you can find a substitute topic, since mostly all generic topic available is used by LGNPC... Its probably best to either abandoned that skill or create a new custom topic(which sadly, not very natural). I usually turn it up at the beginning at totally forgot about it ... until she got busted Laughing .. Making a custom one, would look like Im forcing her Sad

Another thing to use is probably by using merged dialog by testool which you know brings more trouble then minimizing it Sad


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Title: Constance and LGNPC
Post by: LilKid on Aug 05, 2005, 07:20 am
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Oh and this problem too Emma Embarassed

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Might reconsider how you calculate her chances


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Title: Constance and LGNPC
Post by: LilKid on Aug 14, 2005, 02:43 am
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Sorry I posted this before the forum problem before and I wonder if you Emma notice the problem I've mention above Razz


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Title: Constance and LGNPC
Post by: Emma on Aug 14, 2005, 02:59 am
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Quote from: LilKid
Sorry I posted this before the forum problem before and I wonder if you Emma notice the problem I've mention above Razz


I think it is 5 % chance during one hour/day that she will grab that moonsugar. Might be slightly more on khajiits. But, if you manage to enter dialog during the same random100 multiple times, you will get the moonsugar multiple times...


Hmmm.... something just hit me... hehe, maybe I should check the esp a bit better before talking more here...


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Title: Constance and LGNPC
Post by: LilKid on Aug 14, 2005, 04:47 am
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Its not that she grab the moonsugar where the problem is Very Happy .. Once she succeed to pickpocket .. you can abused it by clicking background topic over and over again without closing the dialog box ... Twisted Evil My example was moonsugar .. but she managed to steal a 6th barrier scroll once and it worth around 600+ gold... Twisted Evil


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Title: Constance and LGNPC
Post by: Emma on Aug 14, 2005, 09:48 am
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Quote from: LilKid
Its not that she grab the moonsugar where the problem is Very Happy .. Once she succeed to pickpocket .. you can abused it by clicking background topic over and over again without closing the dialog box ... Twisted Evil My example was moonsugar .. but she managed to steal a 6th barrier * scroll once and it worth around 600+ gold... Twisted Evil



Yes, that was what suddenly hit me while writing the above answer Wink... which is why I didn't complete my answer, as I didn't want to encourage any non-cheating players to do what... ehrm... you can do.

I have fixed it, so in the update I'm working on, this won't happen. Thank you for bringing this up. Sorry that I made such a newbee mistake in ver 1.0, but, I think you as well as most other players know the circumstaces for the somewhat premature release; Grumpy's health rapidly deteriorating, and we both wanted him to see her released while he still was here.

Updated should be ready during this week, btw.


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Title: Constance and LGNPC
Post by: LilKid on Aug 14, 2005, 10:30 am
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Is there a problem if I used wrye mash to update Constance in my save game? Cleaning save game is something Im not good at ... scrap that, Im never good at cleaning anything Twisted Evil


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Title: Constance and LGNPC
Post by: Emma on Aug 14, 2005, 11:19 am
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Quote from: LilKid
Is there a problem if I used wrye mash to update Constance in my save game? Cleaning save game is something Im not good at ... scrap that, Im never good at cleaning anything Twisted Evil


You mean for the new version?
Hmm... actually, nothing has been changed in her main script, I doubt that you need to clean anything.

According to Peter it might be a good idea to alter the date of the esp to the same as previously, using TESTool. I don't know how important this is; I haven't experienced any problems when not doing so, guess it depends on how many mods you are running and what they do.
But, as for Constance, i don'tthink you need to clean anything for an upgrade that doesn't involve her main script.


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Title: Constance and LGNPC
Post by: DWS on Aug 14, 2005, 12:42 pm
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Wrye Mash has got the ability to lock times for plugins. Everytime you start Wrye Mash, the time stamps that have changed would be reset to the locked times.
home.earthlink.net/~wrye_modder/Wrye%20Mash.html#LoadOrderMaintenance


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Title: Constance and LGNPC
Post by: LilKid on Aug 14, 2005, 09:08 pm
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Quote from: Emma
Quote from: LilKid
Is there a problem if I used wrye mash to update Constance in my save game? Cleaning save game is something Im not good at ... scrap that, Im never good at cleaning anything Twisted Evil


You mean for the new version?
Hmm... actually, nothing has been changed in her main script, I doubt that you need to clean anything.

According to Peter it might be a good idea to alter the date of the esp to the same as previously, using TESTool. I don't know how important this is; I haven't experienced any problems when not doing so, guess it depends on how many mods you are running and what they do.
But, as for Constance, i don'tthink you need to clean anything for an upgrade that doesn't involve her main script.


So you mean I need to just download the update release and play? problem is .. I've change her face to use another face .. so I think I still need to clean it


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Title: Constance and LGNPC
Post by: Ravenhome CP42 on Aug 15, 2005, 04:11 am
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I also changed her face (What? I really liked one of Qarls Tattooed faces)


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Title: Constance and LGNPC
Post by: Emma on Aug 15, 2005, 04:58 am
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Quote from: LilKid
Quote from: Emma
Quote from: LilKid
Is there a problem if I used wrye mash to update Constance in my save game? Cleaning save game is something Im not good at ... scrap that, Im never good at cleaning anything Twisted Evil


You mean for the new version?
Hmm... actually, nothing has been changed in her main script, I doubt that you need to clean anything.

According to Peter it might be a good idea to alter the date of the esp to the same as previously, using TESTool. I don't know how important this is; I haven't experienced any problems when not doing so, guess it depends on how many mods you are running and what they do.
But, as for Constance, i don'tthink you need to clean anything for an upgrade that doesn't involve her main script.


So you mean I need to just download the update release and play? problem is .. I've change her face to use another face .. so I think I still need to clean it


That depends on how you changed her face, but normally you should only have to change the head in the new esp as well.

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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 04 Mar 2006 02:48 am Post subject: Constance is bored
MUBA

« on: Jun 27, 2005, 04:27 am »

I downloaded Constance - and some other mods as well, but I'm currently trying this one - but when I start Morrowind, it says that one of the plugins (which shouldbe Constance since she's the only one) couldn't find a required datafile. Well, I have tribunal installed, so that shouldn't be the problem. It asks me if I want to continue - yes - and that goes without problems.
Anyway, now when I start to conversate with her, she says she's bored and wants to chat. Alright, but the only thing she can talk about is A) the commands I can give her, B) she being a companion, C) her background (a little this and a little that) and D) Darius, the imperial guard commander.

IS there anything I can do?
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 04 Mar 2006 02:49 am Post subject: RE: Constance is bored
MUBA

« Reply #1 on: Jun 27, 2005, 07:16 am »

And besides... she isn't chatting, like the intro promises. Maybe this is because the incorrect master file version, I don't know. But I think it is a pity. Just wanted to let you know.
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 04 Mar 2006 02:49 am Post subject: RE: Constance is bored
« Reply #2 on: Jun 27, 2005, 08:54 am »

When she is bored and wants to chat, there should show up a new topic among the commands you mention. It's called -chat...

You haven't used TESTool dialog fixme on her? If you have touched her dialog with TESTool, you can expect all kind of problems (as with all other dialog intense mods)

Who is Darius, the imperial guard commander? Have no idea what she has got to do with her.
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* Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 04 Mar 2006 02:50 am Post subject: RE: Constance is bored
MUBA

« Reply #3 on: Jun 27, 2005, 09:32 am »

Ah, I see it. I expected the chat topics to appear right in the topic list, not in a special menu. Ok, now I like this girl even more.

No, I haven't changed her, so I have not used TESTool dialog fixme. I don't even know what that is grin

Darius is the guy in Gnisis, he's in the tradehouse there. Maybe that's why they know each other, cuz when you lose Constance she goes to there.

But, thanks for the answer. She's not bored anymore!
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 04 Mar 2006 02:50 am Post subject: RE: Constance is bored
« Reply #4 on: Jun 27, 2005, 10:24 am »

Good to hear that!

I was starting to fear that she was even more unpredictable than I had ever expected BigGrin.
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 04 Mar 2006 02:53 am Post subject:

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Trouble with Constance bow quest
MUBA

« on: Jun 29, 2005, 07:15 pm »

The previous major problem I had with this thief, was that she was bored.
Ok, so now's she not bored anymore and we are having a good time doing... a little of this and a little of that.
She is, indeed, unpredictable.

If you still want to play this mod and you won't have it spoiled, please,
don't read ahead. The answer to this question, and parts of the question, might contain spoilers.





Ok, I warned you. The following may be spoiling.
Good, there is this bow of Constance and I'm about to retrieve it from Yenna. I found her hideout and spoke to Yanna but she doesn't like me.
Persuasion doesn't help and in her house I can't find any hints on how I could seduce her into cooporating. She thinks I'm a thief (correct) without skills and with no charm at all. But I have personality at 51.
Fortunately, I had some of this Tusk brew with me - what is it called again? - and that raised my personality even higher. Together with my thief ring - found in a cave - I pumped it up to about ~70-80 or so, I think. Not sure anymore.
But even that was not enough.
Ok, I thought, I'll just use the amulet to discuss it - but she won't anwer.

Now what should I do?
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 04 Mar 2006 02:54 am Post subject: RE:

SPOILER: Click to show

Trouble with Constance bow
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« Reply #1 on: Jun 30, 2005, 09:40 am »

Well, I hope you are rich. Feed her up with money (everytime 1000 dr) until she adores you. Wink
Or perhaps return to Caius Cosades, take a little training in speechcraft, do a little this and a little that, learn something, rest - and come back later on. There is no need to hurry.
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 04 Mar 2006 02:54 am Post subject: RE:

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quest « Reply #2 on: Jun 30, 2005, 12:13 pm »

You must raise her disposition to +70 (or was it +75??). Then she will be willing to take you on as an apprentice.
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 04 Mar 2006 08:39 am Post subject: (Mild Spoiler)Problems with-Lost Heir and
Constance Epimetheus

« on: Jul 06, 2005, 12:40 pm »

First - Lost Heir: did the drum test, no recognition of course; but now I can't find the nanny (can't remember how to spell her name) to get to the next stage... Where do I need to be? Did she get mugged going back to the camp?
Second - I ended up with two versions of Constance; and one killed the other! Now Balgoth thinks I killed his niece and attacks when I try and talk with him (the first time really sucked because Constance killed him and then blamed me!) Can I fix this? I assume that since I can un-expel myself from factions and what-not that there is a toggle of some sort? Please?
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 04 Mar 2006 08:39 am Post subject: RE: (Mild Spoiler)Problems with-Lost Heir and
Constance « Reply #1 on: Jul 06, 2005, 01:12 pm »

Drum test: I assume that you left the cottage in Gnaar Mok through the door? In that case... I suppose something happened....? And that you afterwards found a message? And got a journal entry? If so, Mmephepsala should indeed be at the Zainab camp. But, if you used for instance VTA to get out of the cottage, you'll have to go back there (there's a warning in the VTA readme that it breaks Lost Heir...)

As for doubled Constances... you obviously have a dirty save here, and I have no idea if there is any safe way to sort this out. I assume you have added new mods to your game and this caused the doubled Constance. You can disable a clone with the console (click on npc, type
disable
setdelete 1)
but if you kill one of them... that's a bad solution that might continue to cause all kind of problems.
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 04 Mar 2006 08:40 am Post subject: RE: (Mild Spoiler)Problems with-Lost Heir and
Constance Epimetheus

« Reply #2 on: Jul 09, 2005, 07:45 am »

Drum test: I assume that you left the cottage in Gnaar Mok through the door? In that case... I suppose something happened....? And that you afterwards found a message? And got a journal entry? If so, Mmephepsala should indeed be at the Zainab camp. But, if you used for instance VTA to get out of the cottage, you'll have to go back there (there's a warning in the VTA readme that it breaks Lost Heir...)

As for doubled Constances... you obviously have a dirty save here, and I have no idea if there is any safe way to sort this out. I assume you have added new mods to your game and this caused the doubled Constance. You can disable a clone with the console (click on npc, type
disable
setdelete 1)
but if you kill one of them... that's a bad solution that might continue to cause all kind of problems.



Well, I solved my Constance problem by going back to a saved game that had no mods running, and ran through the lost heir mod again until I got to the same spot, and lo and behold Janicia has forgotten about the quest, and I can't find Mmephepsala - again. I don't have VTA running, and I left through the door (Insela was waiting outside). Journal entries as follows:

7 First Seed (Day 176)
@mmehepsala# has given me a drum that used to be @artruhn#'s favourite toy. She wants me to show it to the three young men in @gnaar Mok#. The one who recognizes it and calls it his "Hamba-Bamba" is the righteous @artruhn#. Meanwhile, she will be leaving the cave to go to the @zainab camp#. Her hope is that the Ashkhan will forgive her for selling those recipes.

9 First Seed (Day 178)
It seems like none of the young men in @hrinpadi#'s shack area really familiar with the drum. Could still one of them be @artruhn#?

What am I doing wrong? I go back to the cavern and she is still waiting, acting like I'd never left.
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 04 Mar 2006 08:42 am Post subject: RE: (Mild Spoiler)Problems with-Lost Heir and
Constance « Reply #4 on: Jul 14, 2005, 02:45 pm »

Quote from: Epimetheus
Quote:
Drum test: I assume that you left the cottage in Gnaar Mok through the door? In that case... I suppose something happened....? And that you afterwards found a message? And got a journal entry? If so, Mmephepsala should indeed be at the Zainab camp. But, if you used for instance VTA to get out of the cottage, you'll have to go back there (there's a warning in the VTA readme that it breaks Lost Heir...)

As for doubled Constances... you obviously have a dirty save here, and I have no idea if there is any safe way to sort this out. I assume you have added new mods to your game and this caused the doubled Constance. You can disable a clone with the console (click on npc, type
disable
setdelete 1)
but if you kill one of them... that's a bad solution that might continue to cause all kind of problems.



Well, I solved my Constance problem by going back to a saved game that had no mods running, and ran through the lost heir mod again until I got to the same spot, and lo and behold Janicia has forgotten about the quest, and I can't find Mmephepsala - again. I don't have VTA running, and I left through the door (Insela was waiting outside). Journal entries as follows:

7 First Seed (Day 176)
@mmehepsala# has given me a drum that used to be @artruhn#'s favourite toy. She wants me to show it to the three young men in @gnaar Mok#. The one who recognizes it and calls it his "Hamba-Bamba" is the righteous @artruhn#. Meanwhile, she will be leaving the cave to go to the @zainab camp#. Her hope is that the Ashkhan will forgive her for selling those recipes.
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9 First Seed (Day 178)
It seems like none of the young men in @hrinpadi#'s shack area really familiar with the drum. Could still one of them be @artruhn#?

What am I doing wrong? I go back to the cavern and she is still waiting, acting like I'd never left.




Somebody? Anybody?



There should be a pack of badguys outside the shack. Aren't they attacking you?? I'll give you a real spoiler below...



























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Kill the three Artruhns (normally they shouldn't survive the attack from the badguys). They are frauds. One of the carries a note. Show it to Janicia. Should give you new dialog and a new journal entry.
But, please, check for the badguys first. Could they be stuck in a static from another mod or something?? They really should be there. Have you got a magically enhanced personality, so that npc enemies don't attack you anymore?
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 04 Mar 2006 08:43 am Post subject: RE: (Mild Spoiler)Problems with-Lost Heir and
Constance Epimetheus

No bad guys, no superenhanced personality (70)

I'm running Morrowind Comes Alive and your Children mods - the only two that add more than a few NPCs.

I'll try the Reaper option you suggested, see what comes up. Let you know what happens.

PS - I just wanted to add that I love your mods. Thank you for adding so much to my enjoyment of this game.

Update - I hadn't carried the conversation far enough that the Artruhns would follow me out the door... (idiot me - I assumed that after the journal update, my conversation with the fakes was over). As soon as I did, everything fell into place.

Thanks for the help dealing with this - and for creating the mod in the first place; TES would be a much poorer world without your presence.

Epimetheus
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 04 Mar 2006 08:43 am Post subject: RE: (Mild Spoiler)Problems with-Lost Heir and
Constance Glad to hear that you sorted this out! grin You got me rather worried that something was wrong.

And thank you for your kind words grin. I will probably keep on modding, although I'm taking a break at the moment, since my dear friend and modding companion Grumpy passed away on June 17th. Right now, I'm actually playing MW instead, for the first time since autumn 2002, and I hope that it will sooner or later bring back my motivation for modding.
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 04 Mar 2006 08:45 am Post subject: [SPOILERS] Help with Constance's quest
Kenneth

« on: Jul 20, 2005, 11:25 am »

Hi everyone,

First of all, I would like to thank Emma and everyone who participated in the creation of these wonderful mods. They make Morrowind truly worth playing 3+ years on.

If you're reading this, and haven't completed Constance's quest, stop reading now because this post contains

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OK, I have Yanna's doorkey and Yanna's chest key. I can SEE the basement of Yanna's hideout behind the bed, but I have searched the inside and the outside of Yanna's hideout and I cannot figure any way to get down there. Help me, please!
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 04 Mar 2006 08:45 am Post subject: RE: [SPOILERS] Help with Constance
Kenneth

« Reply #1 on: Jul 20, 2005, 11:44 am »

Well, surprise, surprise, I found the "hidden door". Guess I posted too soon. Thanks for reading everyone. See you in Tamriel.
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* Post Posted: 04 Mar 2006 08:45 am Post subject: RE: [SPOILERS] Help with Constance
Good to hear that you have sorted it out! grin

I'm sorry that I haven't been around to help you. My computer crashed, I'm on a borrowed one right now.
Will hopefully have my own up and running again soon, I'm just hoping that it's only the graphic card and not the harddrive... oh horror...
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Post Posted: 04 Mar 2006 08:46 am Post subject: RE: [SPOILERS] Help with Constance
Kenneth

« Reply #3 on: Jul 21, 2005, 04:17 pm »

Hi, Emma. No problem at all, and thanks again for all your great work. I hope you get your computer fixed soon. Maybe this is a good thing: If your vid card crashed, it will just give you an excuse to buy a better one, so you can play Oblivion!
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 04 Mar 2006 08:50 am Post subject: Constance constantly take Lauras Flowers ...
Majed

« on: Jul 20, 2005, 11:55 pm »

Hi everybody,

after playing a long time with Laura, i've decited to add Constance to the game. At first, i was very impressed that the two companions recognizes each other, and had a good laugh when Constance steals Lauras flowers - the first time.

But then it happened again and again ... and now it is really annoying.
To put a stop at it, I've tried to give Constance her own flowers - but next time I've talked to Laura, she complained ... guess what? BigGrin

So my question is: How can I stop this? I would love to run both Mods simultaniosly, but at this time it seems impossible without risking my sanity ... Confused
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 04 Mar 2006 08:50 am Post subject: RE: Constance constantly take Lauras Flowers ...
LilKid

« Reply #1 on: Jul 21, 2005, 06:43 am »

Hehe.. welcome to the 'flower headache problem' club ^__^ .. My advice? Live with it Razz ..
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 04 Mar 2006 08:51 am Post subject: RE: Constance constantly take Lauras Flowers ...
Hmm... it's based on random100.... maybe I overdid it a little Twisted Evil

I'm actually updating the Constance mod right now, so I can check and maybe adjust it so it get less likely to happen.
You'll have to live with it, though... I won't remove it completely.
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Post Posted: 04 Mar 2006 08:52 am Post subject: RE: Constance constantly take Lauras Flowers ...
Majed
Wanderer

« Reply #3 on: Jul 21, 2005, 02:31 pm »

Quote from: LilKid
Quote:
Hehe.. welcome to the 'flower headache problem' club ^__^ .. My advice? Live with it Razz ..
Well, guess I'm in BigGrin Can't stop anymore, guess i have to pick up every Golden Kanet from now on to make Laura happy again ...


Quote from: Emma
Quote:
Hmm... it's based on random100.... maybe I overdid it a little Twisted Evil

I'm actually updating the Constance mod right now, so I can check and maybe adjust it so it get less likely to happen.
You'll have to live with it, though... I won't remove it completely.
Well, thats good news, I'm looking forward to it. I wasn't suggesting to remove it completely, as it is really funny - from time to time. It adds Atmosphere to the game, never encountered something familiar so far. And as we arrived in Vivec and Constance suggested to get rid of Laura - well, i HAVE to live with stolen flowers - just for these moments. Thank you so much for these wonderful Mods
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 04 Mar 2006 08:52 am Post subject: RE: Constance constantly take Lauras Flowers ...
You're welcome grin - it's so fun adding these little "extras" to the game - I'm sure Constance and Laura will have other things to say about each other at other places wink
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Post Posted: 04 Mar 2006 08:53 am Post subject: RE: Constance constantly take Lauras Flowers ...
LilKid

« Reply #5 on: Jul 22, 2005, 09:15 pm »

Oh btw Emma, I think you gonna need new responses for Constance and Laura from the children.. Its kind of weird when the children asking me to keep my little woodelf friend from picking their pockets Razz . And I definitely dont think their comments on Laura is appropriate either... Small children usually comments on looks and such .. seldom relation.. Maybe a jab at either a couple are married .. but dont think they think too far. The current comment seem like a bit matured for their age.

Embarassed Sorry for going wee bit offtopic here Razz . Just dont think it warrant a new thread.
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 04 Mar 2006 08:53 am Post subject: RE: Constance constantly take Lauras Flowers ...
LilKid

« Reply #7 on: Jul 23, 2005, 10:27 am »

You are welcome ^__^ . Always happy to help. Also, just an idea .. filter dialogs for thieves ... Thieves MAYBE a bit more considerate to another thief .. anyway, if they can tolerate me as another thief in their ground why can they be tolerate to Constance as well, of course all bets are off when she pickpocket em Razz .. Oh and for the guards, Constance feels a bit scared to Beryl in my game, so maybe you could use that idea too for guards... Maybe commenting how she looks a bit scared or uneasy or .. you know the drill wink

I feel so evil jacking this thread .. again Twisted Evil
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 04 Mar 2006 08:54 am Post subject: RE: Constance constantly take Lauras Flowers ...
I'll have a look at the thief conversation... As for guards, she has random special conversation for most of them. But it's based on random 100, as most of her dialog. Try starting a dialog with her in for instance Ald-ruhn or Vivec, and sooner or later she will comment on the guards. I wouldn't say that she's particularly afraid of them, though.
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 04 Mar 2006 08:54 am Post subject: RE: Constance constantly take Lauras Flowers ...
LilKid

« Reply #9 on: Jul 23, 2005, 10:36 am »

Never knew the dialogue with guards, except knowing that she also get that "we watching you, scum" line .. Good to know that I'm not the only one going through the experience Embarassed
Well, I never played for long each game now since I keep changing Beryl's code and since the game is still fresh, I just restart and restart again Razz .. Got to stick through a game longer .. >_<
Hmm.. quick response Razz
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 04 Mar 2006 11:45 am Post subject: Constance: Need a clue to Yanna's hideout
roadbum1660

« on: Jul 26, 2005, 04:32 am »

I've cleared to cave, (even found the dead adventurer) but have no idea where to go from here. I suspect there's a clue in the dialogue but I'll damned if I can find it!
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 04 Mar 2006 11:45 am Post subject: RE: Constance: Need a clue to Yanna
Oh, just go on with your gameplay. grin
You don't have to go anywhere right now, you will be contacted... But it will take a little time. I.e. it's depending on the chats you have wiht Constance.
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 04 Mar 2006 11:46 am Post subject: RE: Constance: Need a clue to Yanna
roadbum1660

« Reply #2 on: Jul 26, 2005, 07:45 pm »

Whatever!

P.S. enjoy the mod immensely, even with a certain unpleasent surprise. I have three different characters "dragging" around Constance with no gameplay problems...thanks to you and Grumpy! BigGrin BigGrin
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* Post Posted: 04 Mar 2006 11:46 am Post subject: RE: Constance: Need a clue to Yanna
Lorac

« Reply #3 on: Jul 28, 2005, 12:57 pm »

Be sure to look "carefully" around Caldera and go "off road. Her instructions are Northwest. It took me FOREVER but it's there! Wink
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Post Posted: 04 Mar 2006 11:47 am Post subject: RE: Constance: Need a clue to Yanna
Kenneth

« Reply #4 on: Jul 28, 2005, 02:36 pm »

If you take the road from the Gnisis area to Caldera, the Hideout is quite visible off to the right of the road. I noticed it LONG before I was supposed to go there, but then I never use fast travel. Good luck.

EDIT: I just realized the above may not work if you don't have View Distance maxed. Maxing View Distance is always a good suggestion when out hunting for something. You can reduce screen resolution if you have framerate problems. One of my favorite things to do is climb up to a high place with View Distance maxed and just have a look around. You can discover all kinds of interesting things that way.
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 04 Mar 2006 12:56 pm Post subject: Changing Constance's Head\Hair
Azazel

« on: Aug 27, 2005, 04:52 pm »

Hello everyone,

I am sure this question must sound quite noobish but i have very little experience in modding and i would like to know how to change Constance's Head/Hair?

The ones i would like to use to replace the originals are as follow (that is the names they have in the CS):

For the Head:
From Emma's Wood Elf Headpack
1em_B_N_WElf_Head37

For the Hair:
From RheddHeads Wood Elf Female
1BG_WElf_Hair_04b

Could someone please explain to me how to accomplish this? Which file to look for in which folder an what to rename them to.

Someone suggested that i merge the 3 plugins and just change the head & hair on Constance, but i am not very inclined on doing this since the only thing i want to use from the other 2 plugins is a single face and hair piece.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

Azazel
aka Darkwalker
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 04 Mar 2006 12:57 pm Post subject: RE: Changing Constance
Hi grin

This is from the pinned thread at the top of this forum with Tips and Trouble shooting for Companions:

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I WANT TO GIVE MY COMPANION A NEW HEAD/A NEW RACE. HOW CAN I CHANGE THIS?
So, you have seen Elric Melnibone's beautiful new Angelina Jolie face and want to change Laura Craft into Lara Croft? Or you have decided that Witchgirl Morgana should be a darkelf? Very well, that's easy to fix. Open up the mod in the constrution set. To the left, you will see a couple of tabs. One of them is called "npc". Click here. At the very top of the list, you should find my companions (I generally use the prefix 11A or 11AA). Let's say that you will alter Laura. Double-click on the line with her ID-name. That will bring up the NPC-infobox. Here, you can change her race, her looks and even her name (just DO NOT change her ID-name). To the very right, you will find a list of heads and hairs. Just pick your choice and hit the OK button. Her race is listed below her name, you can change her into anything you want. But, her voice will remain the same, as it is programmed in the dialog.
If you go to the Vivec-cell where she is (list of cells below the render window, there's a * at the Vivec cell where she is), you can see her change her appearance each time you click "OK" on her npc-info-box.
Once she looks as you want her to look, just save the mod.
One thing, though: If you are already using Laura in your game, you will probably (but not always) have to clean your saved game in order to make the changes show up ingame (see instructions above). This should only take you a couple of minutes.


You don't have to search for any files in any folders.
Just load the three mods together:
Constance
Emma's woodelf pack
Rhedd's woodelves.
*
Make sure that the Constance mod is the ACTIVE mod.

Once you have selected the head and hair, you can keep it in the Constance mod by going to the Body Parts tab in the construction set.

Look for the 1em_B_N:WElf_Head37. Double-click on it. This will bring up an information box. Click "save". Now, the head has a * next to it in the body parts list. This means it has been successfully saved to the plugin.
Now, do the same with the hair...

If you do not want to add the new head and hair to the Constance mod, you don't have to do anything at all in the Body Parts section. Then you simply have to make sure that you have both my headpack-mod and Rhedd's woodelf-mod activated when you play your game. Else Constance will show up headless (and then you simply have to close the game and check those two mods, that will do the trick).
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 04 Mar 2006 12:57 pm Post subject: RE: Changing Constance
Azazel

« Reply #2 on: Aug 27, 2005, 05:45 pm »

Thank you for the quick reply BigGrin
Quote from: Emma
Quote:

Once you have selected the head and hair, you can keep it in the Constance mod by going to the Body Parts tab in the construction set.

Look for the 1em_B_N:WElf_Head37. Double-click on it. This will bring up an information box. Click "save". Now, the head has a * next to it in the body parts list. This means it has been successfully saved to the plugin.
Now, do the same with the hair...


This is the part i didn't know about, thank you again for the valuable info.

Cheers,

Azazel
aka Darkwalker
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 04 Mar 2006 01:24 pm Post subject: Help with Constance mod (warning slight spoiler)
dench

« on: Oct 14, 2005, 05:35 am »

Greetings. I started the Constance mod recently and I've just been given the quest to find Balgoth. Trouble is, Balgoth seems to think I've caused Constance's death even though she is clearly there, alive and kicking. Is there anyway to modify my savegame so he doesn't think Constance is dead? If I restart the mod again, will that work or would there still be something in my savegame that tells Balgoth Constance is dead? Uh... hope that makes sense to someone here Embarassed Your help is greatly appreciated!
cheers
dench
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 04 Mar 2006 01:24 pm Post subject: RE: Help with Constance mod (warning slight
spoiler) Let me guess... she died and you resurrected her?

Sorry, that won't help, if she has died once, Balgoth will consider her as dead, and others will as well. So, back to reloading, I guess...
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Post Posted: 04 Mar 2006 01:24 pm Post subject: RE: Help with Constance mod (warning slight
spoiler) dench

« Reply #2 on: Oct 14, 2005, 08:45 am »

Will do. Thanks for that. It's an excellent mod, and I'll try not to drop my companions in lava again.... Sad
cheers
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Post Posted: 04 Mar 2006 01:25 pm Post subject: RE: Help with Constance mod (warning slight
spoiler) * flycatcher

« Reply #3 on: Oct 14, 2005, 05:41 pm »

I prolly shouldn't tell, but if you really desperate you could uhm try small plugin that chages a dialog filter.
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Posted by: jaythehand
Post Posted: 07 May 2006 11:29 pm Post subject:
Alas, I've run into the same problem... and the death occured so long ago that I would be better off just starting over again. But I hate to leave Constance stuck in her story-arc, I've been enjoying it so much. Thanks!
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Posted by: trunip190
Post Posted: 07 Aug 2006 11:10 am Post subject:
one thing you can try is to load up the mod in the Morrowind Enchated Editor, and you can remove Constance from the KLST (kill list).
this should then make the game recognise that constance is in fact alive.
if you want to use a mod for this purpose there is a mod that requires MWSE, but does the same job.
it also lets the NPC keep it's current inventory.
there are multiple versions of the esp, and some incurr penalties when you use the spell, to make it more balanced.

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Posted by: skinkfem
Post Posted: 25 Mar 2006 03:00 am Post subject: problem with constance
greetings all.

i have a not so small problem with constance. i pick her up and arm her,
save (not quicksave) with her in following mode. the next time i load i get multible errors about constance resulting in her dissaperence.
i then backtracked to gnisis whitout finding her and asks the bartender i gnisis. where is constance, then i get that anoying sound (when morrowind crashes due to somethings missing) and has to press ctrl+alt+del to even get out of there.

i was using vamp embrace and vamphider at the moment (yes im wearing a helm so no one knows im a vamp)

i also have a missing mesh/texture to a chest and opon entering the chest the game crashes, does this mod change some of the ingame/add chests?

any ideas whats causing this?
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 25 Mar 2006 04:00 am Post subject: Re: problem with constance
skinkfem wrote: greetings all.

i have a not so small problem with constance. i pick her up and arm her,
save (not quicksave) with her in following mode. the next time i load i get multible errors about constance resulting in her dissaperence.
i then backtracked to gnisis whitout finding her and asks the bartender i gnisis. where is constance, then i get that anoying sound (when morrowind crashes due to somethings missing) and has to press ctrl+alt+del to even get out of there.

i was using vamp embrace and vamphider at the moment (yes im wearing a helm so no one knows im a vamp)

i also have a missing mesh/texture to a chest and opon entering the chest the game crashes, does this mod change some of the ingame/add chests?

any ideas whats causing this?

Are you by any chance using Death's Doorstep? This mod is incompatible with Constance and will cause crashes.
The only solution is that before you start a game with both of these mods, you move Constance to another location in TESCS - it seems that Death's Doorstep does something to the cell where she is located in TESCS, and this erases her from the game.
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Posted by: skinkfem
Post Posted: 25 Mar 2006 09:19 am Post subject:
as a matter of fact i have.

the first unpatched game was directly blocking the guar trail north of gnisis but the update move the shop to a new location. perhaps the mod creator forgot to move something.

ill drop her in gnisis instead and see if that solves the problem.
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Posted by: skinkfem
Post Posted: 25 Mar 2006 02:05 pm Post subject:
it worked thanks for the help
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Posted by: Oubliette
Post Posted: 06 Jun 2006 01:20 pm Post subject:
Hmm... Emma, I'm having (for want of a better explaination) a similar problem.

I've already moved Constance in the CS before loading her into the game with Death's Doorstep. But once I've actually met her, told her to follow and then saved, my game crashes. Not as I play. Only when trying to load the save with Constance in it does it CTD without even loading fully Crying or Very sad

There isn't any unusual warning file generated either. But here's my mod lists.

Code: [Game Files]
GameFile0=Morrowind.esm
GameFile1=Tribunal.esm
GameFile2=Bloodmoon.esm
GameFile3=Morrowind Patch v1.6.2.esm
GameFile4=MetalQueenBoutique.esm
GameFile5=Morrowind Comes Alive.esm
GameFile6=MW_Children_1_0.esm
GameFile7=Texture Fix 1.0.esm
GameFile8=Texture Fix - Bloodmoon 1.0.esm
GameFile9=LCV Wolverine Hall 01.esp
GameFile10=NPC LCV Schedules 03.esp
GameFile11=NPC++ [Gnisis].esp
GameFile12=lgnpc_SN.esp
GameFile13=abotWhereAreAllBirdsGoing.esp
GameFile14=abotWaterLife.esp
GameFile15=Books.esp
GameFile16=Assassin's Shop.esp
GameFile17=newarrowsLITE.esp
GameFile18=VTA_TravelMW.esp
GameFile19=VTA_TravelTribun.esp
GameFile20=VTA_TravelBlood.esp
GameFile21=newarrows - crossbow realism.esp
GameFile22=The regulars - Sitting NPC's v2.01.esp
GameFile23=Nevena's Twin Lamps & Slave Hunters 1.2.esp
GameFile24=farrp_Quivers-FletchingKit_V2-5.esp
GameFile25=lgnpc_AldVelothi.esp
GameFile26=lgnpc_Khuul.esp
GameFile27=Slof's Civilised Khajiit.esp
GameFile28=Silt_Striders_Are_In_Vvardenfell.esp
GameFile29=BE_HousesForSale.esp
GameFile30=MWE_Journal.esp
GameFile31=lgnpc_MaarGan.esp
GameFile32=MWE_Base.esp
GameFile33=BB-argonian-sils-text.esp
GameFile34=lgnpc_GnaarMok.esp
GameFile35=Nevena's Ex-Slaves & Partners 1.5.esp
GameFile36=Ranger Tent.esp
GameFile37=MTT Vol III.esp
GameFile38=MQB_ImprovedWigGND.esp
GameFile39=LOCH_Area_Effect_Arrows_Redux.esp
GameFile40=lgnpc_Ald'ruhn.esp
GameFile41=Morrowind Comes Alive NOM Patch.esp
GameFile42=Rotate Enhanced.esp
GameFile43=LGNPC - Pelagiad.esp
GameFile44=Clean NaEelrin.esp
GameFile45=Clean Solstheim_Castle_v1.1.esp
GameFile46=X-jiit.esp
GameFile47=X-jiitTails.esp
GameFile48=X-jiitCompanionsBM.esp
GameFile49=Clean Nocturne.esp
GameFile50=Clean Peace and Tranquility.esp
GameFile51=MW_family1_0.esp
GameFile52=ImprovedTeleportation2.0.esp
GameFile53=Clean Requiem Sword resource Part 1.esp
GameFile54=LGNPC - Tel Mora.esp
GameFile55=BM_CatCompanions1_0.esp
GameFile56=Clean VIBRANT TREES 1.0.esp
GameFile57=The Hidden Pathway 2.0.esp
GameFile58=WolfComp_ver3_0.esp
GameFile59=MW_ch_orc.esp
GameFile60=Eyren_armory.esp
GameFile61=1gr_packgua_1r.esp
GameFile62=MW_ch_elves.esp
GameFile63=Merged MCA addons with MOGS.esp
GameFile64=TB_packdonkey1_0.esp
GameFile65=Xenterra_Keep_v1.esp
GameFile66=Provincial_Bath _Shoppe_v1.esp
GameFile67=LGNPC - Foreign Quarter v0.5.esp
GameFile68=Better Clothes Beta_1.4.esp
GameFile69=Eyren_armory2.esp
GameFile70=Vibrant lights 1.0.esp
GameFile71=Pegas Horse Ranch v3.1.esp
GameFile72=mw2006.esp
GameFile73=MW_br_im_no_kids.esp
GameFile74=Ninja_Girl_Companion.esp
GameFile75=Leaves of Lorien.esp
GameFile76=Less Lore.esp
GameFile77=Slof's Goth Shop II - Kinky Add-On.esp
GameFile78=Fliggerty's Armor Project.esp
GameFile79=YKG_heads&hair_compilation.esp
GameFile80=YKG_essential_replacers.esp
GameFile81=constance1_0.esp
GameFile82=YKG_clothing_armor_comp_5.03.06.esp
GameFile83=PW_Cait's Animal Kingdom.esp
GameFile84=YKG_Ascadian_Rose_Cottage_ver1.1.esp
GameFile85=Better Bodies.esp
GameFile86=IceNioLivRobeReplacerPLUS.esp
GameFile87=TG's Looser Elven clothing.esp
GameFile88=YKG_Mog.esp
GameFile89=Balmora Expansion v1.4+.esp
GameFile90=Merged_Leveled_Lists.esp
GameFile91=Merged_Objects.esp
GameFile92=DM_DB Armor Replacer-ExpRanks.esp
GameFile93=IT Beryl and Constance Fix.esp
GameFile94=Persuasion Response Expansion.esp
GameFile95=Got The Time.esp
GameFile96=fnk_crabby_traders.esp
GameFile97=Clean Phij's Twinblades.esp
GameFile98=Clean Forever.esp
GameFile99=SRH's DrugFix V1.1.esp
GameFile100=betterravirr_0619.esp
GameFile101=Fashionable Merchants 1.0.esp
GameFile102=All Silt Strider Ports.esp
GameFile103=All Boat Ports.esp
* GameFile104=TimeSaver - Give Creeper 500K.esp
GameFile105=Balmora Retextured.esp
GameFile106=Changing Faces Replacer.esp
GameFile107=GAM NOM 2.12.esp


There are a few listed that I'm not actually using atm, though I am using both versions of Improved Teleport (the readme wasn't clear about weither I only need the one for Constance and Laura.) Currently I'm completely baffled Crying or Very sad
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 06 Jun 2006 01:25 pm Post subject:
I'm suspiciously looking at another of my mods:

Quote: GameFile6=MW_Children_1_0.esm

You do know, don't you, that there is an easily cured problem with CoM and crash-upon-loading?

I think I heard that CoM + Death's Doorstep has caused problems.

You can read more about the problem and the solutions here: lovkullen.net/Emma/COM_conflicts.htm
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Posted by: Oubliette
Post Posted: 06 Jun 2006 01:45 pm Post subject:
I haven't had any problems with CoM up to now Sad And to avoid that problem I specifically waited until after talking to Cauis Cosades before loading the mod in... But I'll try this and see if it helps.
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Posted by: Oubliette
Post Posted: 06 Jun 2006 02:13 pm Post subject:
Didn't help Crying or Very sad
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 06 Jun 2006 02:20 pm Post subject:
Then I don't know what to say here...
There is this known problem with Death's Doorstep and Constance, but you seem to have ran into something else. Most likely some other incompatibility, but I have never heard about that in regards to Constance. Have you added any mods after you added Constance? And, if so, did you put her in wander mode first? (see warning in readme)
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Posted by: Oubliette
Post Posted: 06 Jun 2006 02:25 pm Post subject:
Do you mean load order? Constance isn't at the top of it right now, but that's the next thing I'm going to try. She's not currently in wander mode. During the whole testing thing I've had to revert to a save since before I met her (since the old ones with her won't load) she's in follow mode when I exit the game and reload.

Interresting thing is, if I make a save and then immediately load it, it works fine. If I exit the game fully and attempt to load I get the CTD during intialization.
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 06 Jun 2006 02:36 pm Post subject:
Dark Diva wrote: Do you mean load order? Constance isn't at the top of it right now, but that's the next thing I'm going to try. She's not currently in wander mode. During the whole testing thing I've had to revert to a save since before I met her (since the old ones with her won't load) she's in follow mode when I exit the game and reload.

Interresting thing is, if I make a save and then immediately load it, it works fine. If I exit the game fully and attempt to load I get the CTD during intialization.

that's interesting, but it doesn't ring a bell...

what I was refering to with load order was if you had added new mods, so that Constance place in the load order had been changed. That can cause crashes if she is in follow mode, because then the recall-script is running.

Try putting her in wander mode once and see if that helps (that will stop the recall-script).
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Posted by: Oubliette
Post Posted: 06 Jun 2006 02:52 pm Post subject:
I'll try that... Might take a minute I'll have to go back to an older save.
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Posted by: Oubliette
Post Posted: 06 Jun 2006 03:09 pm Post subject:
Ok, that worked... But she walked away so fast I couldn't find her again Rolling Eyes Went to the tradehouse and asked around, the publican said she was downstairs... and then he teleported there himself. No sign of Constance though...

I'll try telling her to wander after I take her inside somewhere d'oh!

edt - Ran Constance through TPCD and the only things it seems to conflict with are IT Constance and Laura, Got the Time, Changing Faces and Nevena's Twin Lamps and slave hunters.

If I'm reading it right, the only mod that could possibly be overriding it is Changing Faces (and she has her proper head in game.) Constance over rides all others including IT Constance and Luara [smiley_abk]

I'll just have to be really really careful with her I guess.
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Posted by: Oubliette
Post Posted: 06 Jun 2006 08:59 pm Post subject:
Not fixed... Crying or Very sad

There remains absolutely no signs of Constance. No one in Gnisis seems to have heard so much as a word about her. This happens in all of my saves, including the ones in which I've never met Constance...
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Posted by: Oubliette
Post Posted: 06 Jun 2006 10:20 pm Post subject:
She continues to disapear from the save games everytime I put her in wander as well as when I tell her to wait. If I don't do either, the save is curropted beyond hope of loading Crying or Very sad

I'll get started trying again in the morning most likely.

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Posted by: KSG
Post Posted: 27 Mar 2006 04:49 pm Post subject: Constance not her usual, talkative self
So I recently got Constance (v1.2), and she's been a lot of fun. Yesterday, though, something broke. I didn't change any mods or anything, and I've never tried to clean Constance, so I have no idea what could have happened. Everything works except for chat. She keeps telling me that she's bored and wants to have a chat, but the -chat option is not listed in her topics like it normally is. She still follows, wanders around, "finds" things, and so on just like always. Any idea what happened? Is there a way to fix this that doesn't involve going back several quests to an old save?
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Posted by: Gristle-TL
Post Posted: 27 Mar 2006 11:49 pm Post subject:
Yup, I had the same thing happen to me. It happened so late in the mod (I believe I've completed everything to do with her) that I thought that she had run out of new "chat" subjects- where in my opinion that aspect of her scripting should have either been cut off entirely or had it repeat some innocuous subjects (the former would be preferred). I was still able to access everything else with her, but that is annoying..
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 28 Mar 2006 01:31 am Post subject:
This shouldn't happen.
I have heard of this happening to one other guy, and then it was realated to the quest with Yenna.

If both of you could tell me what your latest chat with her was about, I will try and help you sort this out.

The chats should be neverending and continue to go on and on, but less regularly later on.
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Posted by: KSG
Post Posted: 29 Mar 2006 08:32 pm Post subject:
I don't remember what my last chat was about. I think the last significant thing she that happened was she either found the shirt/skirt, or increased my sneak by one point, whichever happens last.
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Posted by: KC
Post Posted: 29 Mar 2006 10:37 pm Post subject:
I've encountered the exact same thing. She wants to chat, but no chat topic. I believe the last chat was the one where she gives me the shirt and skirt. At least, that's the last one I remember. I hope this isn't a permanent bug, because I'm enjoying Constance's company alot.
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 30 Mar 2006 01:39 am Post subject:
No, this can be fixed quite easily, no worries.

Here is a general advice, that I believe should always work:

Ingame, open the console and click on her so that her ID shows up at the top of the console.

type:
set dayup to 0

this should re-set the daycounter. Next time you talk to her she won't want to chat, and you will have to wait a few days before the chat shows up again. Hopefully, it should now work properly.

If it doesn't, there's still a good workaround but you may miss one chat...

Open up the console and type:
SV

this should give you a long list of things related to Constance. Among them you should find something called 'Chatcount' and a number associated with it. Write down this number.

Let's say it was 20 (it should be 20 after the thing with Constance wanting to buy a skirt after telling you how to improve your sneaking)

Type:

set dayup to 0
set chatcount to 21

* This way, you won't get chat no 20, but you will be able to proceed and get all other chats.

I'm not sure why this sometimes happens, maybe it's related to that you have installed other mods. Confused

Hope this helps, else please post again and we'll sort it out.
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Posted by: KC
Post Posted: 30 Mar 2006 01:33 pm Post subject:
I'll try it and let you know how it works. For reference, before I make the changes, here are the numbers I get from using the sv command:
daycount=9
dayup=5
chatcount=23

One other thing: I'm also using Laura. During one of the "Constance steals some flowers from Laura" incidents, when I talked to Constance and checked her inventory, she had no flowers. Fortunately, I had a recent save, so I reloaded and played up to the flower stealing instance again, and the flowers spawned in her inventory this time. A minor hiccup in the script, I guess.
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Posted by: KSG
Post Posted: 30 Mar 2006 06:29 pm Post subject:
I got:
chatcount = 23
dayUp = 15
daycount = 0

So whatever's wrong, it's wrong with chat 23 or 24, I guess. For the reccord, I'm not using Laura. Anyway, setting dayup to 0 (and resting for five days) worked. Thanks for the help.
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 05 Apr 2006 03:00 am Post subject:
I'll have a look at chat 23 and see if I can find what triggers this behaviour. It isn't a genuine bug... most people seem to get the chats as they should. But, it could be some kind of glitch here.
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Posted by: KSG
Post Posted: 05 Apr 2006 05:19 am Post subject:
Possible mod conflict?
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Posted by: jaythehand
Post Posted: 20 May 2006 12:05 am Post subject:
Same thing also just happened to me...

Again, chatcount is 23!

And I am also running Laura. Are the ladies not playing nicely together? Smile

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Posted by: jaythehand
Post Posted: 13 May 2006 05:53 pm Post subject: Constance Mod Quest Problem (Spoilers)
Hi!

Earlier I had a problem with Constance's Uncle not recognizing her, because Constance had died and I raised her using a mod. I ended up restarting the game, and now I've gotten past that point, but now I'm on a new problem:

I'm on Yanna's missions.

I've managed to do a "real mission" for Yanna (wow, she was hard to befriend!), and she tells me to "check the front door." I go out, and there's Constance, only it's a completely "reset" Constance. She has no equipment and does not recognize me. I reloaded a bit earlier, and tried to find her at Gnisis, and again it was a reset Constance clone.

I have not added or subtracted any mods since starting this instance of the game (I know that can cause duplicates), but I am using the "Companion Teleport" mod, could this be interfering?

I hope some one can help. I've really enjoyed the mod up to this point and would hate to have to give up on it.

Thanks!
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Posted by: jaythehand
Post Posted: 13 May 2006 07:07 pm Post subject:
As a follow-up, I did find a work-around (maybe some one else having this problem can also use this solution):

I tried the quest-arc over again, wondering if perhaps I had used up too much time wandering around, causing the absent Constance to 'reset' in the meantime.
(I've heard of the 72-hour bug, but hadn't experienced it myself before).

So here's what I did differently:

- Right after Constance teleported, I used Companion Teleport, teleported her back and put her in a safe place.

- Then I did Yanna's missions, "checking up" on Constance between each mission.

- I finally got to the spot where Yanna has you check outside her house. Again, the Constance who appeared outside was a "reset" Constance.

- I reloaded, and then right after Yanna told me to check outside, I cast Companion Teleport and summoned Constance to me. She was the "real" one, and she had the appropriate dialogue to finish the story. And I was able to complete the rest of the quest! Yay!

Thanks so much for such an entertaining mod! Very Happy
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* Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 19 May 2006 09:56 am Post subject:
Glad you got this sorted out! Smile

I don't understand why you had this problem, haven't heard of it before, and I don't think Companion Teleport was involved. Could you have been separated from Constance for an extremely long time? That could possibly cause her to reset. Are you using Death's Doorstep? This mod seems to interfere with Constance in various ways, but what generally happens is that she just doesn't exist.

puzzling... but glad you sorted it out.
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Posted by: jaythehand
Post Posted: 20 May 2006 12:00 am Post subject:
The first time I had the problem, I thought perhaps it was the time that had passed, because it did take me a long time to find Yanna's hideaway... but the second time, I reloaded and ran immediately there, so I'm not sure it was the timing.

And no, I don't have Death's Doorway. I am running a bunch of other mods though, so good odds that something in them interferred.



**SPOILERS (LAURA ROMANCE MOD):**

As a side note, I am also playing the Laura romance mod, and during the part of her story where she's kidnapped, I found her and rescued her without any of the same kinds of problems. So.... very puzzling indeed!

Thanks again!

[loriel]

Posted by: Baron of Hell
Post Posted: 22 May 2006 12:13 am Post subject: When Constance attacks....Me
For some odd reason everytime I tell Constance to wait she turns around and start attacking me or one of my other companions. Can't go to the bathroom without her tagging along. I never left her behind so don't know if she always acted this way or if this is something caused by a new mod. Didn't see any other post about a problem like this so it must be something unique to way I'm playing.

I tried using thrall wait options from vampire embrace but that had the same result.
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 22 May 2006 11:25 pm Post subject:
Are you playing as a vampire and Constance is not?
I know long ago I heard someone had a conflict with Constance because of this, and it was sorted out once she was fully 'embraced'. It had something to do with how she was embraces Confused

I think there is a thread somewhere in this mod section about this, but I haven't time to dig for it right now. Make a search on Constance and you will probably find it.
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Posted by: Baron of Hell
Post Posted: 22 May 2006 11:39 pm Post subject:
I got it working. It seems to happen because I'm a vampire. I fixed it by turning her in a vampire * also.
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Posted by: Baron of Hell
Post Posted: 22 May 2006 11:42 pm Post subject:
ah you got the answer before me. All seems to be good now. We'll run around eating people together. Its better that way.

[loriel]

Posted by: gyzr75
Post Posted: 07 Jun 2006 11:53 am Post subject: help can't get constance startet
Hi, I have been unable to find this anywhere else...
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How do I start the quests for constance?
And are there any romantic prospects with her Smile?

And thanks for some very cool companions... Very Happy Very Happy

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Is there any chance for a pregnancy expansion to White Wolf? Very Happy
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 07 Jun 2006 12:23 pm Post subject: Re: help can't get constance startet
gyzr75 wrote: Hi, I have been unable to find this anywhere else...
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How do I start the quests for constance?
And are there any romantic prospects with her Smile?

And thanks for some very cool companions... Very Happy Very Happy

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Is there any chance for a pregnancy expansion to White Wolf? Very Happy
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Constance will start the quests, herself - she will regularly initiate new chats with you, and later on give you a quest.

Nope, she is only your buddy - no chances for a romance there (and she would probably be very annoying as a girlfriend ).

I'm not sure about a pregnancy expansion to White Wolf... there is a children expansion, but those children are not the players.

We'll see Smile
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Posted by: gyzr75
Post Posted: 07 Jun 2006 01:24 pm Post subject: Re: help can't get constance startet
Ok... Just wondered if there was something specific that would trigger the quests

He he, I know about the CoM and Lokken children - I run both Smile nice with some proof, that life is being lived in morrowind... Smile

how about a "children of Oblivion"?
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Posted by: KSG
Post Posted: 07 Jun 2006 04:05 pm Post subject:
I think, Emma, that you will never escape the requests to port your mods to Oblivion. :Þ

[loriel]

Posted by: Artemis
Post Posted: 19 Jun 2006 08:49 am Post subject: "My Precious Bow" (spoilers relating to
Constance) Hi Emma,

First of all, I want to say "Thank you so much for Constance!"
She is the best companion mod I have ever tried. I love her chats and the way her story is integrated into the game. I'm seriously thinking of adding her to my 'must have' Data Base.


Small glitch though, and likely of my own making Rolling Eyes Embarassed

I have just installed Slof's "Better Beasts," but I took care to put Constance in wander mode before activating "Better Beasts."

I don't think Better Beasts is causing any kind of conflict, I suspect it was just a hiccup related to installing a new mod over the top of "Constance."

Basically, we have just recently retrieved the bow and moved on to other things. I decided that prior to heading into the Molag Mar region it would be wise to do some repairs, so I removed Constance's bow from her inventory. When I spoke to her again she came out with the line "My precious bow.... Please give it back to me..." I did, but every time I have addressed her since then, she has repeated the request, and won't say anything else.
(note, she already gave me the "Precious Bow" line just after I picked it up in Yanna's chest, and I handed it back to her then)

I tried sending her somewhere else and meeting up with her, and that didn't work. She did steal the ring in the Vivec Plaza, and I was able to check her inventory for it, and then return the thing to its owner. However, when I spoke to Constance again, I did not get the usual "Are you mad at me?" Instead, she asked me to return her bow again.

If it helps, the last chat we had was where she taught me her Chameleon spell.

I have tried the console command:
'Player -> AddTopic "-chat..."
It turned purple suggesting it was the right code, but it still doesn't seem to do anything.

Would it help at all if I tried reordering my mods so that Constance loads close to last?

I'm really enjoying this game and I'd prefer to not restart or anything, so any suggestions that might correct my idiocy would be much appreciated Very Happy
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 19 Jun 2006 09:36 am Post subject:
It seems Constance believe that you have at least one of her bows in your inventory.

You could try this:

Call up the console. Type:

Player->RemoveItem "aa_zs_ivybow" 100

And then see what happens.
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Posted by: Kateri
Post Posted: 19 Jun 2006 09:55 am Post subject:
Emma wrote: It seems Constance believe that you have at least one of her bows in your inventory.

You could try this:

Call up the console. Type:

Player->RemoveItem "aa_zs_ivybow" 100

And then see what happens.

That would probably work.. but your encumbrance might get really thrown off! Removing items you don't actually have will do that to you. If it was me, I'd remove one at a time, checking Constance in between - so you minimise the encumbrance issue.

K.
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 19 Jun 2006 10:16 am Post subject:
Kateri wrote: Emma wrote: It seems Constance believe that you have at least one of her bows in your inventory.

You could try this:

Call up the console. Type:

Player->RemoveItem "aa_zs_ivybow" 100

And then see what happens.

That would probably work.. but your encumbrance might get really thrown off! Removing items you don't actually have will do that to you. If it was me, I'd remove one at a time, checking Constance in between - so you minimise the encumbrance issue.

K.

It has that side effect?? EEK!

I honestly didn't know... Embarassed
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Posted by: Artemis
Post Posted: 19 Jun 2006 11:31 am Post subject:
@emma,
it is now *my* turn to feel even more embarrassed. Embarassed Applause Rolling Eyes

Your suggestion worked great, though not exactly in the anticipated way.

I opened up my console and typed in the 'remove item' command, and then clicked on Constance. * Voila! It worked! Very Happy Except... I noticed when I went into my inventory that what I thought was my bow was missing... I then went to check Constance's belongings and found Azura's Eye there. It would seem that when I had our bows repaired, I accidentally gave her back the wrong one.... Embarassed
I feel like a candidate for the Darwin Awards... Duh... Maybe my having recently cut back on coffee counts as an excuse? Laughing
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 19 Jun 2006 11:53 am Post subject:
[131] Well, then both you and I have learnt something new today... you to look more carefully at bows and I to not console-remove more than one item at the time Wink

Hmm... I'm wondering how that screwed up encumberance actually works?? My encumberance will be reduced, right???

Hmmm.......

Hmmmmmmm.....


Hmmmmmmmmmm......


Wonder if that would work in real life too??

(Emma calls up console.
Emma types:
Emma->RemoveItem "Chocolate biscuit" 100
Emma->RemoveItem "Beer_medium_strong" 100
Emma->RemoveItem "Camembert_cheese" 100)

Got to try it one of these days... Maybe it will work better than any diet... Rolling Eyes Mr. Green
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Posted by: M'Aiq
Post Posted: 19 Jun 2006 12:24 pm Post subject:
Hrm,... Does that work for M'Aiq to, M'Aiq likes sweets Very Happy
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Posted by: Kateri
Post Posted: 19 Jun 2006 12:45 pm Post subject:
Emma wrote: [131] Well, then both you and I have learnt something new today... you to look more carefully at bows and I to not console-remove more than one item at the time Wink

Hmm... I'm wondering how that screwed up encumberance actually works?? My encumberance will be reduced, right???

Hmmm.......

Hmmmmmmm.....


Hmmmmmmmmmm......


Wonder if that would work in real life too??

(Emma calls up console.
Emma types:
Emma->RemoveItem "Chocolate biscuit" 100
Emma->RemoveItem "Beer_medium_strong" 100
Emma->RemoveItem "Camembert_cheese" 100)

Got to try it one of these days... Maybe it will work better than any diet... Rolling Eyes Mr. Green

If only! Very Happy But yes, I'm told that removing items not in your inventory will still remove their weight from your encumbrance. So it is actually beneficial, really, since you can now carry more! - if you are carrying nothing, you get negative encumbrance!

Glad you solved the problem though Artemis - and now Emma can stop worrying about her mod having bugs with bows Wink

K.

K.
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Posted by: Artemis
Post Posted: 21 Jun 2006 06:38 am Post subject:
lmao! Hmmm... I wonder if that 'glitch' could be used to unload mental/emotional baggage too? I can see it now... "The MW Console Couch, Better than any therapist can provide, unload your worries here." Razz

Anyway, thanks to both of you for the quick response, I much appreciate it.

I have to say again, I just *love* the Chat feature (and random theft incidents Very Happy) that Constance has, it gives her so much personality!
I don't suppose you'd consider implementing it into your Lokken mod, would you? *looks hopeful* Wink

Again, cheers!