Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 04:47 pm Post subject: Children topics for Lokken children
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Title: Children topics for Lokken children
Post by: Jenn on Jan 18, 2006, 04:31 pm
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Is there anyway we could get a small patch that would make Lena and her cousin react to presents like the other kids do? They talk about books, but when you try to give them one they just keep repeating the same thing, and they react like adults to the toys and candy line. I would love to bring them home presents from my travels like I do Lauranna or Wulfren
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 04:48 pm Post subject: RE: Children topics for Lokken children
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Title: Children topics for Lokken children
Post by: Seeker on Jan 18, 2006, 04:37 pm
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Hmm..., nice idea, that one - would fill my inventory on travels, indeed!
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 04:48 pm Post subject: RE: Children topics for Lokken children
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Title: Children topics for Lokken children
Post by: Emma on Jan 18, 2006, 04:42 pm
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Quote from: king1367 on Jan 18, 2006, 04:31 pm
Is there anyway we could get a small patch that would make Lena and her cousin react to presents like the other kids do? They talk about books, but when you try to give them one they just keep repeating the same thing, and they react like adults to the toys and candy line. I would love to bring them home presents from my travels like I do Lauranna or Wulfren
That's weird? In my game and throughout playtesting, Lena and Solveig reacted to presents like any other kid, if you had the CoM mod enabled, of course. I know it, because I specifically tested.
Try this and tell me what happens:
Open up the console, click on one of them so that the ID-name shows up at the top of the console.
Type:
set knowyou to 6.
Check again what they say when you talk to them about toys and candies.
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 04:49 pm Post subject: RE: Children topics for Lokken children
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Title: Children topics for Lokken children
Post by: Seeker on Jan 18, 2006, 04:53 pm
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Salutations, Emma!
The post you replied to was not from me, but I had the same phenomenon in my game. After using your command, however, all is back to normal. Now I can go present-hunting! Very Happy
Thanks! Smile
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 04:50 pm Post subject: RE: Children topics for Lokken children
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Title: Children topics for Lokken children
Post by: Jenn on Jan 18, 2006, 04:55 pm
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I'll try it soon as I can, but yeah, they talked about books, so the next time I was on the Main Land I picked one up for both of them, talked to them again and said I had one and asked if they wanted it, just got the repeat of the fairytales dialog again.
Will do on the command though, I like doing the present thing! Very Happy
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 04:50 pm Post subject: RE: Children topics for Lokken children
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Title: Children topics for Lokken children
Post by: Emma on Jan 18, 2006, 04:58 pm
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OK... that's interesting! Thank you for the information, Seeker!
Yes, please, King1367, it would be great to know if you find the same thing as Seeker. In that case, there might be a glitch in the mod, which I will need to fix up! Good that the two of you brought up the subject, I didn't have a clue that this wasn't working properly Smile
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 04:50 pm Post subject: RE: Children topics for Lokken children
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Title: Children topics for Lokken children
Post by: Seeker on Jan 18, 2006, 05:00 pm
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Glad to be of help! Smile
*Bowing*
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 04:50 pm Post subject: RE: Children topics for Lokken children
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Title: Children topics for Lokken children
Post by: Jenn on Jan 18, 2006, 05:20 pm
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Didn't work, I opened the console, clicked on Lena, then did set knowyou to 6 I also did various other variations, setknowyou 6 and so on, all I kept getting was that is did not recognize the variable knowyou, so I split it up and still nothing.
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 04:51 pm Post subject: RE: Children topics for Lokken children
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Title: Children topics for Lokken children
Post by: Neko on Jan 18, 2006, 06:36 pm
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if you do the console thing, click Lena, then type
SV
it should do a handy dump of all her variables, knowyou included. If not, it should mutter something about no local variables in script on 1em_lena or something similar.
There was a problem someone encountered, I forget who, where the console wouldn't recognise the main Enter key but only the numeric keypad Enter. Don't think this is a problem in your case if * you're seeing responses to what you type, but thought I should mention it since it's such a bizzare problem.
EDIT: Oh, and if you type "SV" without an object name at the top of the console window, it will show all the global variables. Can be a little overwhelming.
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 04:51 pm Post subject: RE: Children topics for Lokken children
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Title: Children topics for Lokken children
Post by: Seeker on Jan 19, 2006, 04:56 am
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Quote from: king1367 on Jan 18, 2006, 05:20 pm
Didn't work, I opened the console, clicked on Lena, then did set knowyou to 6 I also did various other variations, setknowyou 6 and so on, all I kept getting was that is did not recognize the variable knowyou, so I split it up and still nothing.
Strange, though...it did work for me...?! :dontknow:
Maybe due to my own mod/game configuration and maybe a little glitch therein, not in the mod itself...,I wonder? :hmm:
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 04:51 pm Post subject: RE: Children topics for Lokken children
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Title: Children topics for Lokken children
Post by: Emma on Jan 19, 2006, 06:41 am
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OK... I've figured it out! Smile
The problem is NOT the local variable knowyou - in fact, these kids don't have - and shouldn't have - that variable.
The 'problem' is that IF you have CoM but not "Your Morrowind family" running, there will be some replies in the topic for toys and candies that will overwrite the original child replies. These are the replies for my own npcs, those who have an emmasnpc-id (which also the Lokken children have).
The result is that the topic toys and candies will not work on the Lokken children in the following areas:
Balmora
Dagon Fel
Caldera
Sadrith Mora
Gnisis
Suran
Ald-ruhn
Tel Mora
Hla Oad
Vivec
Seyda Neen
During one of my tests, I had Your Morrowind Family installed, and during the other one, I went from Khuul to Solstheim, so I never ran into the issue.
Now, as soon as you leave the areas mentioned above, those kids will consume candies just as enthusiastically as any other MW child.
Alas, they won't be equally enthusiastic about the fairy tales... It's because I have filtered the response where you give them books for the short knowyou function. Sad
The good news is that Robert2 has finished the human teenager heads, and that i am about to make a new version of Children of Morrowind. The best way for me to deal with this is to fix it within CoM, as that is where the 'problem' is located.
Until that is fixed, I suggest that you just take a quick walk outside these towns if you want to give the kids new toys or candies.
I'll make a fix for the problem, one way or another...
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 04:52 pm Post subject: RE: Children topics for Lokken children
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Title: Children topics for Lokken children
Post by: Jenn on Jan 19, 2006, 09:24 am
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Sounds great, only one problem, I took the kids from Khuul to Lokken, and never went anywhere else with them, they gave me the adult response dialog for the toys and candy in Lokken *)
But I can just wait for the patch, that works, thank you
:hmm: ok I think I may not have had Morrowind Family running last time I asked about the toys and candy, I think I had it in, just hadn't enabled it yet, lemme ask again and see what happens
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 04:52 pm Post subject: RE: Children topics for Lokken children
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Title: Re: Children topics for Lokken children
Post by: Jenn on Jan 20, 2006, 08:15 pm
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Well toys and candy work now, helps if you actually have the esp file for MOW kids selected *) But still no books are taken Razz
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 04:53 pm Post subject: RE: Children topics for Lokken children
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Title: Re: Children topics for Lokken children
Post by: Emma on Jan 21, 2006, 03:21 am
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No, the books won't work as it looks now, and it's completely my fault. I'm debatng with myself if I should spend time on making workarounds for the Child addon for Lokken, or simply let you folks wait for next version of CoM. Talking about CoM, I started this topic in my WIP section:
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Posted by: Emma
Post Posted: 03 Mar 2006 04:53 pm Post subject: RE: Children topics for Lokken children
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Title: Re: Children topics for Lokken children
Post by: Jenn on Jan 22, 2006, 01:36 pm
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Waiting for the update for CoM is cool for bug fixes, but I would love to have more quest involving the kids in Lokken
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